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WT-550 and schroeder 410??

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Vinpaul, Nov 22, 2005.


  1. Vinpaul

    Vinpaul

    Aug 24, 2005
    Melbourne, Aus
    Hey all. I play in a hard rock band (bit of funk) and am upgrading my gear. I recently played an eden and loved it. I was gonna save up and get a 800b or nav pre plus power amp, but I can get a 550 reasonably cheap. Question is should I snag it or save and wait and get a higher power model? Were talking 2 distorted guitars, double kick, the works I have to play with. Saying that I know the schroeder which should be here in bout 3 weeks is very efficient. Will the 500 watss do it?
     
  2. it probably will be loud enough, but I would go for the 800b anyways - its like double the amp, and the schroeder will love the extra bridged power at 4ohms of the 800b!
     
  3. jerry

    jerry Doesn't know BDO Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 13, 1999
    Hawaii
    +1....If you can afford it, a little headroom is a beautiful thing. :cool:
     
  4. Bassosaurus

    Bassosaurus

    Aug 27, 2005

    I'll go w/ the crowd here. If you're gonna be playing in rock bands for a while, just go for the power and you won't have to think about it again. 'course... you can always add another cab down the road :smug:

    I was never completely satisfied until I got an amp I could bridge at 800 watts. :D
     
  5. Halftooth

    Halftooth Supporting Member

    Nov 24, 2002
    Tri-Valley, NorCal
    Well, this may sound weird, but the WT-550 is nearly as audible as the WT-800B, and an Eden tech verified this with me as well. He said the two amps are very similar and that the 800 wouldn't be a drastic power improvement for my 1210 and 1212. He recommended that if I wanted a noticable improvemnt in power to step up to the WT-1250. So, I'd say, if you can a sweet deal on the 550 to just go for it.

    *Edit: In my specific case, having two 4 ohm Schroeders pushing my amp to a 2 ohm load is where the power output of the 550 and the 800 are similar. In any other case, the 800 has more power.
     
  6. el_Kabong

    el_Kabong

    Jul 11, 2005
    Halftooth, is the five-fiddy comfortable with a 2ohm load? Does the bottom end stay tight, no unexpected clipping or anything? Thanks.
     
  7. Halftooth

    Halftooth Supporting Member

    Nov 24, 2002
    Tri-Valley, NorCal
    I've yet to have the 550 clip once, and I realy push that little thing hard too. The bottom does in fact stay tight when pushed. In fact it's much tighter and more responsive than the iAmp 800.
     
  8. resol

    resol Guest

    Feb 21, 2005
    i've heard of this too - a guy on the eden forums said the WT550 was actually LOUDER than the wt800 (not sure if it was wt800b tho) - and this was going thru the same cab - a 410XLT incidently
     
  9. el_Kabong

    el_Kabong

    Jul 11, 2005
    Not meaning to hijack, but hasn't the output rating on the 550 changed recently (more power into 2 ohms)? Was the amp actually upgraded or did eden just decide to use a less conservative approach to rating the amp?
     
  10. Vinpaul

    Vinpaul

    Aug 24, 2005
    Melbourne, Aus
    I think they increased its wattage at 2 ohms or somethin?
     
  11. Vinpaul

    Vinpaul

    Aug 24, 2005
    Melbourne, Aus
    Also just wanted to ask this. how is the volume of the wt550 compareed to the thunderfunk at 4 ohms? Theyre rated as being the same but is either rated more conservatively? Also does the funk have more 'cut through' ability compared to the warmer wt? thanks
     
  12. Re: WT550 Output ratings:

    As I understand it, Eden merely revised its ratings. The amp remains unchanged.
     
  13. From my limited direct comparison of these two, the max volume output is very similar. Both great sounding... with again the Eden a little more 'bloomy' and warmer in the low end, and the TF a little 'quicker' and tighter in the low end. I feel the TF does have a little more cut due to its inherent voicing, but I would be very content with the Eden550. Both great heads. IMO, the TF has somewhat better build quality (just the feel of the knobs, switched, casing, etc.), but they are both great.
     
  14. Halftooth

    Halftooth Supporting Member

    Nov 24, 2002
    Tri-Valley, NorCal
    Yes, the amp was advertised at like 640 watts into 2 ohms, and now Eden has increased the 2 ohm output to 750 watts. The amp wasn't upgraded, just the rating was re-evaluated. According to the Eden tech, even that 750 watts number is conservative at 2 ohm, and judging by the comparisons with both an WT-800 and an iAmp 800, I would have to agree. I currently have both iAmp 800 and WT-550 pushing at 2 ohms, and the 550 is many times louder than the iAmp 800 which is rated at 1000 watts at 2 ohm.