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X JAPAN's use of orchestral backing predates metallica, discuss

Discussion in 'Recordings [BG]' started by sLapshock, Dec 21, 2004.

  1. sLapshock


    Nov 12, 2004
    For those who want to download X Japan version of "Fugue in Gm" by J.S Bach (This 11 minutes rock epic known as "Rose Of Pain" since Yoshiki turns it into a rock version).

    It is a live version played with Symphony & Musical Orchestra (Yes X did it way before Metallica did it, and im sure there's some other rock band did it way before X did it) in 1991.

    I only rip off Rose Of Pain from the "X with Orchestra" concert. There are other songs like Blue Blood, Silent Jealousy, Endless Rain, Kurenai and Say Anything.

    Very interesting, for those who heard "Fugue In Gm" by J.S Bach before, "Rose Of Pain" is based entirely on Fugue In Gm scale and progression, just that Yoshiki remake it into "rock" version with lyrics and several guitar solo's by hide and Pata.

    Download it (8mb) below.

  2. oversoul

    oversoul fretless by fate

    Feb 16, 2004
    Good for you, but wrong forum ;)
  3. Lockout


    Dec 24, 2002
    Yeah, this belongs in Recordings, just like your last thread.
  4. john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    this is the second thread of yours i've had to move. the next and subsequent threads put in the wrong forum will be deleted.
  5. Benjamin Strange

    Benjamin Strange Commercial User

    Dec 25, 2002
    New Orleans, LA
    Owner / Tech: Strange Guitarworks
    Wow! A rock band playing with an orchestra! What an original concept! :eyebrow:
  6. Matt Till

    Matt Till

    Jun 1, 2002
    Edinboro, PA
    "I doesn't matter who did it first, it's who got popular doing it." -Idiots

    I'm sure other's did it before these guys.

    P.S. I feel that Metallica's S&M album was a flop, the band and the orchestra totally clashed 90% of the time.
  7. 6-3-2


    Sep 20, 2003
    Well I gotta say most people outside of Japan probably don't know who X-Japan is anyway, and i don't think X Japan is that good anyway, way too cheesy 80's metal for my taste. If you want japanese rock and baroque mixed listen to some Malice Mizer
  8. Finger Blister

    Finger Blister

    Jul 8, 2003
    Moody Blues
    Days Of Future Passed, 1967.
    With the London Festival Orchestra
    Conducted by: Peter Knight
  9. Josh Ryan

    Josh Ryan - that dog won't hunt, Monsignor. Supporting Member

    Mar 24, 2001
    and it wasn't ****!
  10. sLapshock


    Nov 12, 2004
    Well, X Japan is legendary Japanese rock band. It is well known to many other country like France, Germany, Brazil and some european countries. They also hugely well known in asia. The thign is they get known after their dissolvement in 1997, before that a little of european country knows them.

    The album KISS MY ASS in 1994, the track BLACK DIAMOND is played by Yoshiki (Drummer,Pianist of X/XJapan).

    "Final Destination" & "Foreign Sand" is a solo project by Yoshiki and Roger Taylor (drummer of Queen). It was listed in Roger's solo album

    In Yoshiki's solo project "Eternal Melody", all the tracks was a work of Yoshiki with George Martin and London Philharmonic Orchestra

    Yoshiki's own a record company in Los Angelas name Extacy Records that produced band like Abandoned Pools and many others

    ".. and any music composed by my friend, Yoshiki" - Paris Hilton

    This is some work Yoshiki's done outside Japan. For the guitarist of X Japan, hide. He works with bands like Zilch in USA.

    The reason for them not succesfull to breakthrough american market (Loudness did it) is because of their glamish image. Which in Japan known as Visual Rock.
  11. sLapshock


    Nov 12, 2004
    Roger Taylor Solo Album



    1.Nazis 1994
    4.Touch the Sky
    5.Foreign Sand
    6.Freedom Train
    7.'You Had to be There'
    8.The Key
    9.Everybody Hurts Sometime
    11.Dear Mr Murdoch (not on Japan release)
    12.Old Friends
    13.Final Destination (Roger Taylor and Yoshiki)

    5th September 1994 (UK)

    Roger Taylor (drums, vocals, guitar and stuff)
    Jason Falloon (guitars)
    Phil Spalding (bass)
    Mike Crossley (piano and keyboards)
    Catherine Porter (backing vocals)
    Joshua J Macrae (programming)
    Yoshiki (drums, piano and synthesiser on Foreign Sand & Final Destination)
    Jim Cregan (guitars on Foreign Sand)
    Phil Chen (bass on Forein Sand)
    Dick Marx (strings arrangement on Foreign Sand)
    Brad Buxer, Geoff Grace (programming on Foreign Sand)
    All songs written by Roger Taylor except Foreign Sand & Final Destination, written by Roger Taylor and Yoshiki.

    Source: http://www.queencollector.com/Discograhy/rogerdisc.htm


    1.DEUCE - Gene Simmons
    2. HARD LUCK WOMAN - Paul Stanley
    3. SHE - Gene Simmons, Stephen Coronel
    4. CHRISTINE SIXTEEN - Gene Simmons
    5. ROCK AND ROLL ALL NITE - Paul Stanley, Gene Simmons
    6. CALLING DR. LOVE - Gene Simmons
    7. GOIN' BLIND - Gene Simmons, Stephen Coronel
    8. STRUTTER - Paul Stanley, Gene Simmons
    9. PLASTER CASTER - Gene Simmons
    10. DETROIT ROCK CITY - Paul Stanley, Bob Ezrin
    11. BLACK DIAMOND - Paul Stanley
    12. UNHOLY - Gene Simmons

    Produced by:
    Track 1: Lenny Kravitz.
    Track 2: Alan Reynolds.
    Track 3: Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley.
    Track 4: Cliff Norrell and Gin Blossoms.
    Track 5: Gavin Mackillop.
    Track 6: Billy Gould.
    Track 7: J. Mascis.
    Track 8: Nuno Bettencourt. Engineered by Bob St. John.
    Track 9: Tom Hamilton and The Lemonheads.
    Track 10: Matt Hyde and The Mighty Mighty Bosstones.
    Track 11: Yoshiki.
    Track 12: Die Ärzte
    Recorded sporadically between 1992 and 1994.

    Source: http://www.kisscenter.com/kissmyass.html
  12. sLapshock


    Nov 12, 2004
  13. Josh Ryan

    Josh Ryan - that dog won't hunt, Monsignor. Supporting Member

    Mar 24, 2001
    I meant as opposed to the Metallica flop.
  14. sLapshock


    Nov 12, 2004
    Anyway you all must check out SONATA ARCTICA covering X Japan song "Silent Jealousy" and DRAGONLAND covering "RUSTY NAIL" by X Japan.
  15. Benjamin Strange

    Benjamin Strange Commercial User

    Dec 25, 2002
    New Orleans, LA
    Owner / Tech: Strange Guitarworks
    Not since Major Metal has one so vehemently spammed their favorite band.
  16. Ironically enough comparing and contrasting to MM's favorite band...