I'm sure there are some PC builders here. I occasionally like to bloviate about my system, not because it's a Threadripping, quad-GPU, 2000watt machine capable of running NASA as a background app, but for the optimization those of us with "budgetary concerns" can attain when we customize our PCs. Indeed, this is the definition of a PC, and we are carrying on the tradition that goes to the Apple II, IMO the first real PC (irony aside). The Apple II was a PC because it was customizable with the same expansion slots on a motherboard design we see today. Anyway, I have been getting great life out of my AM3 build, and am impressed with how well the processors hold up even today. Again, I don't mean as the uber-alpha of CPU's, but in practical terms - so, my 2009 AM3 build was: Athlon II X3, 3.1 ghz 4GB DDR3-1600 Radeon 5770 1GB and this was put in the same green Xqpack I've had since 2005, with a 430watt Antec PSU that has run flawlessly since 2006. That rig had a slight GPU bottleneck, and when gaming did a fine job with titles like GTA IV and Skyrim. Now, a Ryzen 3 2200G alone can outperform my old CPU and GPU on 65 watts. New tech is amazing! But yesterday's tech, I would argue, is sweeter. Especially when you plan an upgrade path into your build. I meant to do this years ago, but my initial build was so strong, there wasn't much need for it until now. So, I doubled the RAM to 8GB. But will need another 4GB to meet min. spec for ProTools 2018. If anyone's curious, yes ProTools 2018 will run ok on 8GB, but I do get occasional loading/saving errors that thankfully do not affect the project. No sooner had I upgraded the RAM, that a local person listed a Phenom II X6 1045t + aftermarket cooler, for $25. This is what I mean by sweet. That was around a $200 processor, and even today on ebay it trends around $60 with no cooler. I got the "new" CPU working last night, after a few harrowing botched BIOS updates (there were a lot of Biostar boards of very similar versions - thankfully the BIOS flash app rejected the wrong BIOS's) The Phenom II base clock is only 2.8ghz, but it uses an auto-turbo mode similar to what Intel did at the time. If 3 cores are idle, it boosts to 3.3ghz. The turbo can be disabled of course, and regular overclocking procedures employed. I intend to wring every last Mhz out of it, just for the fun of it. So now this just leaves the GPU. With black friday tomorrow, I may spring for a RX 560, which appears to be a perfect match to Phenom II X6. Yes, it's "ancient" tech, but it fulfills the design path of the PC I put together. I don't care about the latest AAA game titles. Maxing out yesterday's system for 10x lower cost makes an OG happy.