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Yet another friggin Avatar thread: Users of CB112 or CB115 ...

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by NYC Ken, Jul 2, 2003.

  1. Jul 2, 2003 #1
    NYC Ken

    NYC Ken

    Jul 2, 2003
    New York, NY - U.S.A.
    Sorry to add to the welter of Avatar threads - but look at it this way: I'm pumping up the "buzz" on these cabs.

    I'm new here. Ran a search for Avatar, and found a lot of good (enthusiastic) comments r.e. the cabs loaded with 10s. I only found a couple posts from folks with 12s/15s.

    I'm trying to decide whether the CB112 or CB115 is better suited to what I'm after. I currently play through various 10" configs (Eden210XLT, GoliathII, WM10, etc.) ... but recently I started playing on a gig (with 2 guitars) that requires a beefier bottom in smaller clubs. My 210 isn't cutting it, and I'd rather not schlep around the 410.

    I thought I'd pick up a CB112, but then I noticed that the box is the same size as a CB115 (although the 12 is lighter). Anyone have thoughts r.e. what I can expect from either of these two cabs as stand-alones in a 2-guitar punk-pop band?

    [Other info: For this gig I'll use a Stingray5 and GK800RB; Gtr1 = Fender Deluxe Reverb; Gtr2 = Marshall 1/2stack. Drummer hits hard.]

    Also, whether you'd recommend one or the other?

    (I haven't talked to Dave yet).

    Thanks!!
     
  2. Jul 3, 2003 #2
    tallboybass

    tallboybass Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Feb 25, 2003
    Tulsa, Oklahoma
    Talk to Dave. From the specs the 12 goes lower than the 15. (-3db @ 53hz for cb112, -3db @ 64hz for cb115)
     
  3. Jul 3, 2003 #3
    Blues Bass 2

    Blues Bass 2 Supporting Member

    Oct 3, 2001
    Davenport Iowa
    If your Eden isn't cutting it you'll need at least two of those cabs,either two 112s or a 112 and a 115.I use a 210xlt and I know it's pretty loud on it's own.I also have a SWR 212 with Eminence Kappas in it.I bought the 12s from Dave at Avatar and he's very helpful like everyone says.I find my 212 is a little louder than my 210xlt and a little deeper sounding so two 112s might work out for you but it's not a lot louder than the Eden.The 112 with a 115 would probably keep up better and the lighter cabs would definitly be easier to haul around.I've wanted to switch to lighter cabs also,the xlt is 68lbs.and the SWR ended up at about 85lbs.but they sure sound great together.
     
  4. Jul 3, 2003 #4
    bassist31588

    bassist31588

    Feb 21, 2002
    Cheshire Connecticut, USA
    Youll be good with either one. The CB115 seems like it can get loud when pushing 600 watts into it (its power handling). Im pushing 240 into mine and it's pretty damn loud. Good stuff... It's not heavy either... I'd suggest a CB112 and CB115/CB115h. You'll be in business with both... Push 400+ watts into those and you should have no problems being heard. Seriously, a couple light weight cabs with awesome power handling capabilities that will cost less than one boutiqque cab? Avatar isn't cheap **** either, just inexpensive...
     
  5. Jul 3, 2003 #5
    lo-freq

    lo-freq aka UFO

    Jan 19, 2003
    SW, OK
    Howzabout two CB112's?

    Combine them with a 2x10 and you got a "major air motion generator".
     
  6. Jul 4, 2003 #6
    kurosawa

    kurosawa

    Jan 27, 2001
    York County, Virginia
    I was going through the cab configuration debate same as you and finally decided to schlep around a 2x12 (a 70-lb. Aguilar). A couple minutes' pain sounded like a good exchange for being satisfied with my sound all night. Besides, it's on wheels and it lifts easily into my Elantra's trunk. I just went totally old school. Got a 200 watt tube head. The EQ section has a Fender-Marshall-Vox type tonestack, basically a pinched-V (not at all like smiley face) sort of mid cut right where vocals and guitars live. So I stay out of their way entirely in that part of the sound spectrum. Also I notch around 200 to get out of the way of the kick drum. I don't compete for any part of the spectrum. Instead, I get out of the way and take over relatively unoccupied territory, the freqs that make 'em dance. A 2x12 matches this kind of approach well (so does a 2x15, but my trunk's not big enough).
     
  7. Jul 6, 2003 #7
    NYC Ken

    NYC Ken

    Jul 2, 2003
    New York, NY - U.S.A.
    Thanks all for the great comments. (Just returned from out of town for the 4th).

    Sounds like:
    1. I oughta talk to Dave, at least to straighten out the specs on the 12/15.
    2. I ought to consider pairing the two cabs.

    kurosawa - if you can get a 212 into an Elantra, I should be able to squish a 115 + 112 into a NYC taxicab. (My Goliath II doesn't fit).
     
  8. Jul 6, 2003 #8
    kurosawa

    kurosawa

    Jan 27, 2001
    York County, Virginia
    Maybe if there's a typical trunk size you can count on in a cab, you can have a 12 + 15 cab built to fit? I'd personally rather have one of the heaviest and largest cab I can handle by myself (beast up a flight of stairs, etc) than two smaller ones. Might reduce the number of trips (and the length of time the meter's running) plus the length of time any of your gear sits anywhere unattended.
     
  9. Sep 14, 2003 #9
    Dewees

    Dewees

    May 4, 2000
    I'd personally rather have one of the heaviest and largest cab I can handle by myself (beast up a flight of stairs, etc) than two smaller ones. Might reduce the number of trips (and the length of time the meter's running) plus the length of time any of your gear sits anywhere unattended. [/QUOTE]

    :eek: Man! What a good couple of points to consider! But now I have to rethink everything! I was settled on two 110 cabs (not the specifc cabs, just the configuration.) Maybe I'll just stick with my Eden 210. Hey, but then I don't get to get new cabs!