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You and your sets

Discussion in 'Band Management [BG]' started by MarchingPig, Jul 23, 2007.


  1. MarchingPig

    MarchingPig

    Jan 16, 2007
    Norway
    What´s with almost everyone here plays several sets per gig. When my band eventually get gigs (in not too long a time), we´ll play 1 set, and that´s it. Although it seems like a lot of the people here play in coverbands and the like. Is this something that only occurs in North America?
     
  2. IanStephenson

    IanStephenson UnRegistered User

    Apr 8, 2006
    We're a UK cover band, and play two sets.

    It's basically a question of how long the venue want you to play for and how long you can keep going for without a break.

    We have to do about 2.5 hours start to end, so do 2x1hour sets with a break. A lot of our US friends are play for from 9 till 2AM - 4x1 hours sets. If you think you can play a 5 hour show without a break, then good luck!

    It is a coverband thing though - we get hired to provide a nights entertainment. Originals bands usually play with a number of other bands - there are still several sets, but each band only plays one. If we do that then we would have to split the pay too...

    Ian
     
  3. The bands who play 3-4 hours a night also get paid to do so - sometimes quite well. Will your band be guaranteed money whenever you're ready to play your one set?

    It used to be common for almost all bars and nightclubs to use real musicians for their nightly entertainment, and there were very few venues for unknown acts to play one set (especially, songs that no one knows). These days, there are ever fewer venues that will pay musicians to work, and not that many who will let you play for free...
     
  4. trasser

    trasser

    Dec 13, 2005
    I play in a Danish cover band and an originals as well, I find this is what usually is the name of the game
     
  5. X Wolf

    X Wolf Guest

    Back in the late 60's and early 70's in So.Calif. club bands normally played five-45 min. sets a night and worked 6 nights a week with Monday usually being the off night. Also, very often bands played for weeks or even months at a time at the same club. I seem to remember that we averaged about $45 per player per night. By todays standards the pay wasn't that great but back then the average rent was about $135 to $195 a month and a brand new car was about $5000 out the door and gas was less than 50 cents a gallon. My how times have changed.


    George
     
  6. Smacky the Frog

    Smacky the Frog

    Nov 15, 2006
    You sure about that? Things aren't all THAT much more expensive... if you're calculating dollars from 1965 to 2006, gas still used to cost $3.14 per gallon in today's money. Just thought I'd burst your bubble :D
     
  7. billjr

    billjr

    Jul 25, 2006
    Darlington, SC
    I remember when I was in high school in '78, I wanted to buy a new Ford Grand Torino for $5,000 (Starsky and Hutch influence). I could put a dollars worth of gas in my car and drive all day, and I swore that if cigarettes hit a dollar a pack I would quite.
     
  8. BigLoopDuke

    BigLoopDuke Supporting Member

    Jan 2, 2007
    DSM, IA
    We played a gig where we had to cover for an opener not showing, so we ended up doing a 3.25 hour set, without break. I could barely move the next day. At least we had enough material prepared.
     
  9. X Wolf

    X Wolf Guest

    My bubble is intact, lol. I'm only sure about what I lived through in that era. What I meant by my statement was that $45 doesn't sound like a lot today but in those days it was fine due to how much one had to spend to live. Of course I'm just a bass player and not an economist so I may not have expressed myself clearly. The main point of my post had to do with how much playing one did in those days as a working bass player ;)

    George
     
  10. Jeb

    Jeb

    Jul 22, 2001
    USA
    This is true and there are those of us who do it week in and week out with various projects just because we like to play bass and have fun too. My calendar shows the next open weekend in September. Sure to change though. I have a cell phone.
     
  11. Texas Ed

    Texas Ed

    May 9, 2006
    Typically we have to do either 2-90's or 3-60's during club season. During festival season we do 1.5 hr. to 2.0 hours but it can vary.

    The irony is, the less we play, the more we usually make. :confused: Festival season pays really good bucks. Club season usually just gives us the oppertunity to work on new material for the summer, get some new names on the mailing list, and walk away, at the end of the night, with a C-note in our pocket and a free beer buzz and maybe a booby shot or two. We tell ourselves that club dates are just paid rehearsals. It keep's us for going bonkers.
     
  12. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    If you play in clubs around here, it's four sets per night ... 9:00 pm to 1:30 am. And the pay royally sucks.
     
  13. MarchingPig

    MarchingPig

    Jan 16, 2007
    Norway
    Maybe not a lot the first few gigs, but we´ll get something... :)
     
  14. Bayou_Brawler

    Bayou_Brawler The most hurtful thing ever realized

    Oct 23, 2003
    Ann Arbor, MI
    depends on many things.....like what the venues want....crowd energy....how late you partied last night :)

    some venues are very strict on how many sets and how long you play.

    some are not and it can depend on how you feel. sometimes we have raging crowd that fuel the room and stage with energy and we've played for 3 hours straight.....we've also had dead rooms and you feel like taking a break every 30 mins :smug:

    in general i like a break every 1.5 hours or so.....let's you recharg and gives the room's ears a break...
     
  15. 4 sets 8 -12 , 9 - 1 or 10 -2
    4 45's with 15 breaks
     
  16. datsgora

    datsgora Guest

    May 23, 2007
    N. Ca. Martinez
    Yep, what Troy said.....4 sets, 45 minutes with 15 minute breaks.......pay anywhere from $60-$100 per musician. That ain't bad for doing someting I love....heck, I would do it for no pay.......but gas money is good enough for me. John
     
  17. QORC

    QORC

    Aug 22, 2003
    Elberon, New Jersey
    I think we have typically been contracted for 4 or 4.5 hours.

    We do 3 sets, usually 50-60 minutes each, and appropriate 15-20 minute breaks in between. We frequently make our second set the longest (prime time in most bars) and our third the shortest (with fewer people around).

    We usually get $125-$150 per man.

    Typical
    10:00 - 10:55 Set 1
    11:30 - 12:45 Set 2
    1:10 - 2:00 Set 3
     
  18. MarchingPig

    MarchingPig

    Jan 16, 2007
    Norway
    That´s not how it works in Norway. Doesn´t matter what style of music you play, or if you play covers.
     
  19. Bayou_Brawler

    Bayou_Brawler The most hurtful thing ever realized

    Oct 23, 2003
    Ann Arbor, MI
    that sounds crappy
     
  20. Cover bands here usually play 1 hour sets or 45 minute sets . I have two gigs per week. At Applebees we play 3 - 45 minute sets, and in a Sports bar called "Baja shots" we play 3-1 hour sets.
     

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