Everytime I go into GC, there are a load of bassists there trading licks and ideas, and just hanging out. There will usually be some older cats in there that played funk and R&B in the '70's, and they always say the same thing: "Man, you young cats are way beyond us. That's one of the reasons why I rarely play in public." *** is THAT all about?! Don't these guys know that they are the FOUNDATION of the stuff we do? Larry Graham don't double thumb, and he'd whoop our asses! Man, I really respect older bass players, and it's from them that I usually get my ideas and inspiration, what's with this defeatist attitude? These guys are part of the support beams in this house of the lowend. Yesterday, these 2 older cats refused to take part in a little jam session we had @ GC yesterday, because they couldn't do the fancy stuff. That bothered me, because they played after everyone else had gone, and they were great players!