I'd like to get something off my chest... maybe get you guys to share some of your experiences as well... I've been with this band for about a year now, It's gone through 2 Drummers and 3 Singers. Obviously this sets the band back, and we endup scrapping some songs, others we keep but need to rework. Either way, we havent really got much to show for the year we've been together, 2 completed songs and a bunch of semi-finished-sick-of-playing-it songs. We've been getting frustrated, and it shows when we are composing. we'll finish fixing up the latest riff only to be dumbstruck as to what to play next... and everyone goes in their own directions as to what to play... So, the last few jams have not only been pointless but extremely frustrating. Last night we had another, but at the start of it, we had a long talk explaining how we're all getting frustrated but we dont want to quit the band. after that we played NOTHING that we had ever played before, just complete freedom of movement... the drummer setup a simple beggining rhythm, I started laying a loose groove down, the guitarrist started doing his thing... but the thing was, we had decided to not play that "Safety-riff"... if we went crazy and screwed it up, stuff it. just do it. and I tell you... it felt Gooooood... For the first time, I was relaxed playing with them, we were enjoying it to the max, I was trying things that I would never have attempted before in fear of screwing up. I wasnt even physically "aware" of what the other guys were playing. just felt it and it flowed... At the end of it I started analysing it, and I realised, I felt that good cause I wasnt being constricted to a certain Idea or riff type. I was free to play however I wanted... we always stuck around the same soundtype, no sudden changes, but always hanging the dynamics of it, and changing riffs freely, but keeping them within melody context. Now, in doing this, we have a BASE for a song... and we might not need to make up TOO much more to consider that song finished... but for that bit that we need to make a diferent change like for a chorus or something like that, how would you guys go about FINDING that missing riff? I fear that we will go into that trial and error thing and grow frustrated with yet another song... How do you guys go about composing? What works best for you?