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Ziricote/Walnut/Mac Ebony 5 String

Discussion in 'Luthier's Corner' started by Hopkins, Mar 10, 2013.


  1. Hopkins

    Hopkins Supporting Member Commercial User

    Nov 17, 2010
    Houston Tx
    Owner/Builder @Hopkins Guitars
    I'm starting a new build

    35" scale 5 string
    Set neck
    Ziricote top
    Walnut body
    Walnut neck
    Mac Ebony fretboard.
    Delano Xtender Pickup
    Duncan 2 band pre
    black hardware

    This is the design, I will probably repeat this model quite often, but I can't come up with a name for it
    IMAG0190.

    The woods
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    I didn't get any progress shots on the neck up to this point
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    Back of the head stock
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    Body roughed out, neck pocket cut
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    I love walnut
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    Neck in the pocket, Its a nice tight fit
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    Top glued together
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    I am undecided on my next step. My original plan was to plane the end of the neck to where it is flush with the body, then glue the top on and the fingerboard last.

    But I'm now thinking that is not worth the effort. My other idea is to just glue the top on, and leave the extra length on the fretboard all the way down to the pickup and use it as a ramp.
     
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  2. pretty nice! I love ziricote, funny thing is that it is hard to get it this day even when it grows in Yucatán.
     
  3. If you plan to repeat this model with ziricote top as standard, you could call the model "Zero". That would be fun. Great work!
     
  4. Splods

    Splods

    Oct 7, 2012
    Adelaide, SA
    How many builds are you working on!?
     
  5. Hopkins

    Hopkins Supporting Member Commercial User

    Nov 17, 2010
    Houston Tx
    Owner/Builder @Hopkins Guitars
    Two at the moment, Ill probably start another (TeleJazz 3.0) before these two are both finished.
     
  6. Clydesauce

    Clydesauce

    May 12, 2012
    Well the bass kind of looks like a shield, so a Hopkins Heritage bass or maybe Hopkins Valor bass line.
     
  7. Ahura Mazda Bass!!!
     
  8. lbridenstine

    lbridenstine

    Jun 25, 2012
    MI
    Do you have a router sled that you can use? I'm planning on using mine to get that part of the neck flush with the body before I put the top on mine. I think you could even glue the fretboard on before gluing the neck in unless I'm not thinking of something.
     
  9. Hopkins

    Hopkins Supporting Member Commercial User

    Nov 17, 2010
    Houston Tx
    Owner/Builder @Hopkins Guitars
    Thats what I was talking about doing, use my router to cut the neck flush with the body.

    Then glue the top on around the neck. The part of the neck that sticking out of the body is the same thickness as the top. So if I cut that flush with the body' the fret board would be glued on last and there would be no gap on the overhang.

    If I glued the fretboard on first, I the fretboard will have to be alot longer because the neck pocket is cut so deep into the body. But I think that could be a cool feature. There is about 6 inches of wood left after the 24th fret that I can use as a ramp all the way to the pickup.
     
  10. lbridenstine

    lbridenstine

    Jun 25, 2012
    MI
    Why would it have to be longer if you glued it first?
     
  11. Hopkins

    Hopkins Supporting Member Commercial User

    Nov 17, 2010
    Houston Tx
    Owner/Builder @Hopkins Guitars
    I dont want the walnut neck heal to show from the top. If I cut the heal of the neck down flush with the body, I can glue the ziricote top on, then the fret board wont have to be as long as the neck because the top would cover the heal. If I glued the fret board on the neck, and the top on the body first, the ebony fretboard would have to be long enough to cover the heal of the neck.

    Im leaning towards the second option as of now. It would make for a simpler build process and I think it would look pretty cool
     
  12. lbridenstine

    lbridenstine

    Jun 25, 2012
    MI
    Oh! I was thinking glue the fretboard on, glue the neck in, then use the router to shape the end of the fretboard and level the neck flush, then glue the top on.
     
  13. Hopkins

    Hopkins Supporting Member Commercial User

    Nov 17, 2010
    Houston Tx
    Owner/Builder @Hopkins Guitars
    Oh ok. That would work, but I prefer a bit fretboard over hang. I also dont want to risk any tearout. on the ebony after the neck is glued in.
     
  14. lbridenstine

    lbridenstine

    Jun 25, 2012
    MI
    I see. I think it would look cool with fretboard overhang.
     
  15. "George".
     
  16. SaintMez

    SaintMez Commercial User

    Jan 3, 2010
    Meridian, idaho
    Blood Brothers Guitars - Luthier, Porter Guitars - Contractor
    This will yield the cleanest result. Looking good Hopkins!
     
  17. Hopkins

    Hopkins Supporting Member Commercial User

    Nov 17, 2010
    Houston Tx
    Owner/Builder @Hopkins Guitars
    Did quite a bit of work on this one today, but did a poor job of taking pictures.

    First I glued the top on, did the round over and cut the pickup cavity
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    Then I glued the fretboard on and tapered it

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    The fretboard overhang goes all the way to the pickup and will serve as a ramp

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    Next steps will be to shape the neck, rout the control cavity, a ton of sanding.

    This one probably wont progress to quickly. I will be working on it while I'm waiting for paint to dry on the TeleJazz 2.0 so this bass isn't my top priority.
     
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  18. Hopkins

    Hopkins Supporting Member Commercial User

    Nov 17, 2010
    Houston Tx
    Owner/Builder @Hopkins Guitars
    I have severely neglected this thread.

    I have gotten the neck glued in, finger board radiused, and the neck shaped, but I didn't get any pictures of that progress.

    Here is the back of the body with the control cavity routed, and the first coat of Formby's tung oil. This is going to be an oil/wax finish.

    Notice the little piece of walnut glued to the inside of the cavity, the control and pickup cavities intersect for the wires to pass through. This was done purposely, but I realized afterwords that I routed all the wood away for the pickup screw.

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    The Ziricote top with one coat of oil.

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    The headstock, with tuner holed drilled, logo inlaid, and a truss rod cover made from a piece of scrap ziricote.

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  19. SaintMez

    SaintMez Commercial User

    Jan 3, 2010
    Meridian, idaho
    Blood Brothers Guitars - Luthier, Porter Guitars - Contractor
    Those woods look great together. The grain on the back is killer! Looking good man! I think I see another bass of the week in your future.
     
  20. This is a gorgeous bass!
    What about walnut neck? Is it easy to shape? Did you choose it for an aesthetic issue or are looking for a certain tone?
     

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