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Zon Barts

Discussion in 'Pickups & Electronics [BG]' started by agreatheight, Oct 14, 2013.


  1. I have a Zon Sonus with Bartolinis in it, I think they are custom wound for Zon. I love the sound.

    I have a Mexi Jazz with stock pups. I do not love the sound.

    Obviously, the Barts are active and I don't have a lot space in the Jazz. Any thoughts for a pup swap?

    Thanks!
     
  2. mmbongo

    mmbongo Five Time World Champion Supporting Member

    Aug 5, 2009
    Carolinas
    Two things:

    Those Barts are not active.

    I've never seen a Zon with standard Jazz pickups (with the four mounting ears). I've only seen soapbar shapes.

    Okay, a third thing:
    A Fender will NEVER sound like a Zon, ever. No matter what!
     
  3. Freddels

    Freddels Musical Anarchist

    Apr 7, 2005
    Sutton, MA
    You could put new pickups in the jazz. Maybe Jazz Barts or Dimarzio Model J's.
     
  4. My Zon Sonus 6-Lined Fretless has Bartolini soapbars and Bart 9 - volt on board pre-amp.

    Soapbars would require more modification..and you still would not have THAT sound. You need the Bart or other PRE AMP, as the soapars are passive.

    I have a Rickenbacker which has Bart jazz pups..easy pup swap.

    It would cost less and be asier to buy an outboard pre-amp or outboard parametric EQ.

    I have an 'old-school Furman PQE-3 for my passives.

    The Furman is no longer made and sometimes found on auction sites and is usually under $300..plug bass into Furman..Furman into amp..and you have tons of tone control at your finger tips.

    Many newer pre amps are available and may cost around same..with new warranty, etc.

    Effects boxes are pre amps of a sort also.

    Using a preamp eliminates having to modify your bass ..NO BATTERIES OR BATTERY COMPARTMENT TO FURTHER MODIFY YIUUYR BASS.and takes no time to set up and use.
     
  5. Freddels

    Freddels Musical Anarchist

    Apr 7, 2005
    Sutton, MA
    Jeff Berlin has Bart pickups in his passive bass.
     
  6. mrcircle

    mrcircle peacenik Supporting Member

    Oct 3, 2003
    Boise, ID
    What don't you love about the sound? Hard to recommend a fix without knowing more about what you're looking for.
     
  7. There is a 9v battery in the bass, so something is active.

    I am looking at the bass right now and the pups are Jazz sized Barts, not soapbars.

    Yes, but I'd like to get it closer (without routing).
     
  8. pickles

    pickles Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 23, 2000
    Ventura, CA
    Barts sound good in a zon because they mellow out the bright aggressiveness of the graphite. Your jazz likely needs pickups that add life, kind of the opposite. Lots of options depending on what you want.
     
  9. mmbongo

    mmbongo Five Time World Champion Supporting Member

    Aug 5, 2009
    Carolinas
    The 9v battery is for the preamp.

    Please post a picture of the bass you're looking at. You won't find a Zon that does use soapbars.
    Do the pickups look like these? Those are soapbar single coils.

    zon_ss5_19mm_front.
     
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  10. pickles

    pickles Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 23, 2000
    Ventura, CA
    Id call them earless Js.
     
  11. That's what I'd call them too. I'll post a picture and some DI sound clips later today.
     
  12. mmbongo

    mmbongo Five Time World Champion Supporting Member

    Aug 5, 2009
    Carolinas
  13. I love talkbass for the specificity of it all!

    From the Zon Website regarding the pickup on the Sonus 4:

    Pickup:
    Make: Exclusively designed for Zon by Bartolini.
    Type: Neck: narrow aperture, passive, linear single coil design. JB style shell.
    Bridge: narrow aperture, passive, linear single coil design. JB style shell.

    http://www.zonguitars.com/zonguitars/sonus4.html


    What Zon calls soapbars are bigger... like on the Sonus 4/1:

    Pickup:
    Make: Exclusively designed for Zon by Duncan custom shop.
    Type: Wide aperture, passive, dual coil design. Soapbar style shell.

    http://www.zonguitars.com/zonguitars/sonus41.html





    Now that we have have all that out of the way...
     
  14. pickles

    pickles Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 23, 2000
    Ventura, CA
  15. mmbongo

    mmbongo Five Time World Champion Supporting Member

    Aug 5, 2009
    Carolinas
    Bartolini calls them soapbars, so I'll call them soapbars. Soapbar is merely the shape, there can be many many options inside the soapbar casing. A soapbar does not have to be a humbucker.
     
  16. And Zon calls them single coils in a JB (Jazz Bass) style shell.

    I think we can move past it.

    I am going to send a note to Bartolini and ask them if they have advice.
     

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