5-String Fanned Hybrid Headless

Discussion in 'Luthier's Corner' started by Dave Higham, Jul 13, 2012.

  1. David, the pickup's height is going to be adjusted from behind?
     
  2. Peredur

    Peredur

    Jul 7, 2002
    Wales
    Lush beyond!
     
  3. pilotjones

    pilotjones

    Nov 8, 2001
    US-NY-NYC
    Great work on that pickup.

    Also I like the way you stepped the depth of the body cavities.
     
  4. Dave Higham

    Dave Higham

    Dec 19, 2005
    S.W.France
    I confess to not understanding the idea of the break angle stressing the B string. But I've just had a look at my drawing and in its present position the theoretical break angle of the B string is 11.407°. If I moved it up to the same position as the A string it would be 10.928°. So would a reduction of 0.479° make much difference? As Martha says, the tuners are at the other end.

    That's right. I prefer four small holes in the back to two holes in each pickup cover.
     
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  5. Dave Higham

    Dave Higham

    Dec 19, 2005
    S.W.France
    Thanks Pete. The stepped cavities, as you'll have realised, are because of the planned exterior body shape. I just hope I haven't made any mistakes in my calculations. I only have a 2D CAD programme, which is fine for most things, but I sometimes wish I had Pro Engineer which is what I used to work on.
     
  6. adam.beauchene

    adam.beauchene Commercial User

    Dec 31, 2007
    Maine
    Product Engineer at NS Design
    Thanks for sharing your amazing work here. I was emboldened to try making instruments because of this little corner of the internet, but the level of workmanship coming out of the Luthier's Corner lately is mindblowing.
     
  7. bassingeorge

    bassingeorge Supporting Member

    Jul 28, 2003
    San diego, CA
    absolutely subbed!
     
  8. HaMMerHeD

    HaMMerHeD

    May 20, 2005
    Same here (and I definitely exclude my work from that). LC is almost entirely responsible for making me want to do this.
     
  9. Smilodon

    Smilodon

    Feb 18, 2012
    Norway
    This is looking very good. Your work looks incredibly clean.

    I love how the inlays look. I'm planing to to the same on my current project, so it's nice to see how it can look. :) (I doubt mine will look as good as yours, but still... ;) )
     
  10. two fingers

    two fingers Opinionated blowhard. But not mad about it. Inactive

    Feb 7, 2005
    Eastern NC USA
    I really want to hate you for being so awesome but I can't. Really nice work.
     
  11. Dave Higham

    Dave Higham

    Dec 19, 2005
    S.W.France
    OK, here’s a further instalment.

    As I’m trying to keep the instrument as light as possible I’ve decided to make the neck from mahogany with a couple of walnut laminations and carbon fibre stiffening bars. I bought two mahogany billets 4” x 4” x 39” a few years ago and one of them was a lot lighter in weight (and colour) than the other, so I’m using some of the lighter one. The walnut was reclaimed and must be about 70 to 80 years old. Here’s the neck blank all sliced up and stuck together again.

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    I do a sort of scarf joint but not in the usual way. Instead of cutting the piece off for the head and reversing it, I cut it off and then glue it on again at the back, like this.
    1. Bandsaw the piece off.

    HFN002.jpg


    2. Move it round to the back.

    HFN003.jpg

    3. glue it back on. The holes, by the way, are for brass dowel rods to keep it aligned when gluing and are outside the finished headstock area.

    HFN004.jpg


    Here it is, glued. It’s the equivalent of a neck and headstock cut out of one piece of wood, although probably stronger because of the glued joint, but without wasting a lot of precious wood. A lot of people don’t like one piece neck/heads, especially when the truss-rod adjustment is at the head, and quote the number of Gibsons that have been broken. Should you build an instrument to withstand being dropped on its head? (They didn’t break on their own).
    Anyway, this one will have a volute, which should strengthen it up, and the carbon fibre reinforcement bars in the neck will run up through the neck/head junction so I’m not going to lose any sleep over it.

    HFN005.jpg


    I then trimmed the surplus off the front of the headstock the old-fashioned way. I know that not everyone has hand-tool skills but, honestly, with a little practice and a well-sharpened blade it’s not that difficult, and it’s a hell of a lot quicker than setting up router jigs, etc.
    Action shot :)

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    There’s something really satisfying about producing shavings with hand tools.

    HFN007.jpg


    All cleaned up.

    HFN008.jpg

    Back soon...
     
  12. wraub

    wraub

    Apr 9, 2004
    ennui, az
    Just beautiful.
    Definitely watching this one...

    wraub
     
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  13. Not sure how much learning of new software you'd want to do, but I know that there are several full featured free 3d cad programs for linux. Right now I'm teaching myself FreeCAD on a variant of ubuntu and I'm pretty sure with a background in cad it would be pretty simple to pick up, and can be installed on a flashdrive or side by side with windows.

    Also, its looking like a great build, can't wait to see it finished
     
  14. suraj

    suraj

    Oct 1, 2008
    Mumbai, India
    That's a brilliant way to do a scarf joint..!! i assume it would be stronger than the conventional scarf joints because of the larger glueing surface..
     
  15. A Simply Awesome build
     
  16. dave-chaulk

    dave-chaulk Guest

    Jun 27, 2009
    Newfoundland, Canada.
    You know what's up. This is a really cool build with beautiful work.
     
  17. Very cool, subbed.

    Rob
     
  18. smcfarland1337

    smcfarland1337 Guest

    Jul 11, 2011
    North Carolina
    Oh wow. Blown away by this thread and your work.

    Definitely subscribing to this thread.
     
  19. Dave Higham

    Dave Higham

    Dec 19, 2005
    S.W.France
    Thanks for the nice comments guys (or gals? - that's the problem with pseudonyms...) they're very much appreciated.

    To continue:

    Next job is to cut the slot for the truss rod. I actually have a cheap router table which would have done the job except that the guides on the table don’t move far enough away from the cutter at the limit of their adjustment :mad:. Serves me right for buying cheap Chinese rubbish. So this is a lash-up ‘router table’ which does the job just as well. There’s a hole drilled through the other end of the ‘guide’ and the ‘table’ with a dowel pin in it so the guide can swivel. Fine adjustment is made at this end of the guide using the traditional fine-adjustment tool (hitting it with a hammer!).

    HFN009.jpg

    You may be able to see in this photo the pencil marks on the guide and the neck to show me where to start and stop the slot.

    HFN010.jpg


    Slot cut. I forgot to take a photo, but there was some surplus length at the other end of the neck blank so when setting up I did short trial cuts at that end.

    HFN011.jpg


    I then moved the blank onto the milling machine to widen out the end of the slot for the adjustment nut. I could have fiddled about and done it with the router but it was easier on the milling m/c.

    HFN012.jpg


    I cut the slot 2mm deeper than the depth of the truss rod to allow for a filet to be glued in on top of it. Here’s the rod snugly sitting in its slot. I should mention that at this point I decided that the truss-rod wasn’t in the right position so I modified the slots to bring the adjustment nut further up into the headstock. I thought I’d better own up before some sharp-eyed person pointed out the difference between this photo and the next one.

    HFN013.jpg


    Next I made a strip of mahogany to glue in on top of the truss-rod. See the difference in the position of the rod?

    HFN015.jpg


    Gluing in the filet.

    HFN014.jpg


    Trimming the filet down flush with the surface of the neck blank.

    HFN016.jpg

    Thanks for looking; back later...
     
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  20. JdoubleH

    JdoubleH Supporting Member

    Jul 10, 2008
    Ellerslie, Georgia
    Years ago when I was a bicycle mechanic, I recall that particular adjustment tool being commonly referred to as a Raleigh Wrench ;)

    Inspiring stuff here, by the way.

    - Jeff
     
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