Kahler bass tremolo stability issues

Discussion in 'Hardware, Setup & Repair [BG]' started by pnb84, Mar 30, 2018.

  1. pnb84

    pnb84 Guest

    Apr 18, 2015
    The Abyss
    Hi there, this is my first time posting, but have been a long-time lurker in this community.
    A few months ago I had a flat-mount Kahler 7410 tremolo bridge installed in my bass guitar by a luthier. Initially it operated correctly, although about a week later I began to notice my strings always going sharp after pulling up on the arm (happens with even the tiniest tug). Pushing down on the bar then will return the strings back to pitch. This has been a consistent problem that hasn't gone away.
    I've done a fair amount of research into trying to find a solution for this problem but can't seem to narrow down the cause on my own. To figure out if the strings are being snagged by the nut, I apply graphite lubricant, and also after diving on the arm I've tried tugging/yanking on the string behind and around it, to no avail. Its very unlikely that the strings are being held up there. In addition I also have Sperzel locking tuners installed (which I profoundly would recommend to just about everyone).
    So.. then it seems to me most likely that the problem area with this stability issue must be coming from the cam system of the Kahler. I am now wondering if I should try lubricating any of the parts, though I've read multiple (sometimes self-contradicting) statements online warning against doing that.
    Any suggestions of how to correct this problem would be greatly appreciated!

    Thanks!

    PS: Oh almost forgot to mention, I replaced the old springs with brand new ones myself, yielding no discernible change whatsoever. Same for adjusting the tension.
     
  2. megafiddle

    megafiddle

    May 25, 2011
    If the strings are returning sharp after pulling up on the arm, then the problem is definitely not at the nut.

    Not sure I can help with that specific tremolo mechanism, but as with any mechanism, there are basically two things that might prevent it from returning to it's normal position: friction and interference.

    Parts that have to slide against each other need to be very smooth and typically require some type of lubrication. Parts that pivot against each other typically do not require lubrication.

    Interference can be caused by burs or machining marks on part surfaces. It can also be caused by misalignment of the parts.

    Is there a mechanical drawing or detailed photo of the tremolo available?

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