I've heard lots of good things about them. StringEmporium uses them on all of their basses but do not sell them seperately. I would love to try them, but can't find them for sale. Has anyone seen them anywhere online?
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Double Bass Delrin adjusters
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Delrin should be thought of, accoustically, as quite slow.
Not the type of thing I would want betwixt string and top.
Not the type of thing I would want betwixt string and top.
Interesting. I have heard exactly the opposite through word of mouth from players in my area. Also from what I hear, they are far more expensive than aluminums. I have come to understand that in the world of bass you usually get what you pay for, but apparently this is not true of this instance. I had planned on buying my next bass from StringEmporium, but since they claim Delrins to be the most acoustically similar to a single piece bridge, I'd rather not purchase from an untruthful dealer.
During my research of Delrins I came across this, which does not include Delrins, but I thought might still interest some: [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
During my research of Delrins I came across this, which does not include Delrins, but I thought might still interest some: [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
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maybe in their opinion they sound most like a solid bridge. i dont think that calling them an untruthful dealer is accurate. from what i understand they are quite reputable, and are always recomended for shops in the area by quite a few regulars here. snake oil salesmen? i think not
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gotta love Wiki!
Don't shoot a shop as untruthful because they have a belief based on their experience with their product. Ask enough people about any subject and you will get conflicting reports. We use HMWPE tail-gut almost exclusively and we like how it makes our basses sound. Some don't like it and prefer steel cable. That doesn't make us untruthful. The same applies for Steve and although I may disagree with some of his marketing, it does not make him untruthful to promote what he believes in.
With all that said...I like aluminum adjusters above all else...I don't know the kind of aluminum...Gary does that stuff...but I do know different aluminum's sounded different and we picked ours based on how we thought our basses sounded.
Do your homework, if you like the Thompson basses but don't like the idea of Delrin, ask that aluminum ones be used.
Don't shoot a shop as untruthful because they have a belief based on their experience with their product. Ask enough people about any subject and you will get conflicting reports. We use HMWPE tail-gut almost exclusively and we like how it makes our basses sound. Some don't like it and prefer steel cable. That doesn't make us untruthful. The same applies for Steve and although I may disagree with some of his marketing, it does not make him untruthful to promote what he believes in.
With all that said...I like aluminum adjusters above all else...I don't know the kind of aluminum...Gary does that stuff...but I do know different aluminum's sounded different and we picked ours based on how we thought our basses sounded.
Do your homework, if you like the Thompson basses but don't like the idea of Delrin, ask that aluminum ones be used.
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If it costs more it must be better. You could set up two identical basses with identical adjusters, tell players that bass "A" had normal aluminum, and "B" had a special NASA alloy that cost 500 bucks an ounce. I bet most players would highly prefer bass "B", and would even make it sound better. Fundamental marketing.
That's not to say Delrin wouldn't make good adjusters. I have no idea.
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I'd have to agree with Eric. "What's the best" is a subjective matter and I doubt that Steve at String Emporium would risk his reputation trying to convince people that Delrin adjuster are the best, if he didn't believe so, especially considering that adjusters are a relatively cheap item and he doesn't sell them anyhow.
I have the Delrin adjusters and they do what they're supposed to. If I ever had a problem with them, I wouldn't put much effort in trying to get another set of Delrins, I'd be more likely to grab whatever set I had sitting in my parts drawer.
I have the Delrin adjusters and they do what they're supposed to. If I ever had a problem with them, I wouldn't put much effort in trying to get another set of Delrins, I'd be more likely to grab whatever set I had sitting in my parts drawer.
I've used the Delrin adjusters from New Harmony Music on several basses including my new bass that won an award for tone at the ISB makers competition (still for sale). They are a well made product. I also really like the ebony adjusters for clarity.
Tom
Tom
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"Untruthful" was perhaps not the right word I was looking for. I sincerely apologize for any toes I may have stepped on.
I purchased a hybrid from String Emporium. I have to admit, when I first received it, I played it for one gig, put it in the corner, and didn't pick it up for about 4 months. I just wasn't wowed at all about the sound. No hear me, it was a gorgeous bass, craftsmanship was as close to perfect as I have seen for the price point. The customer service was excellent as was the buying process. I was just in a place where I was busy and didn't want to mess with it. Then I decided to drag it out one day, and either my ears were different, or the bass "settled in" and sounded like a completely different instrument. I say all of this to say it has the Delrin adjusters, and although I haven't heard the same bass with anything else, the bass as a whole sounds amazing. I play mostly through a Markbass 151 with an external New Yorker 15" cabinet. I was torn between String Emporium and Upton. Quite frankly, I was impressed with both companies and what I read, but String Emporium impressed me more on the phone and met my price point a little closer. Both companies seem great though.
On my personal bass, using the same bridge, I found aluminum adjustors to sound much more natural. The delrin adjustors gave the bass a weird harshness and no benefits. Every bass I set up with delrin adjustors seems to have some element of "delrin adjustor" coming through in the sound. We have a huge supply of these adjustors at my shop from before I started working there, and I am just biding my time until they run out...
On the plus side, those delrin adjusters are VERY smooth- like the wholde system is teflon coated. I'd like to see a set of aluminum adjusters that were teflon coated like an elixir guitar string; that would be a great combination.
On the not-so-plus side, this happened last year to a bass with delrin bridge adjusters. It was sitting on the rack next to a few other basses, the bridge was in the upright position under string tension with no obvious errors in setup. I was talking with another customer when we heard a loud crash, looked over, and everything had collapsed, dented up the top, and the adjuster had failed.. regardless of the fancy name you use, it is still just plastic...
On the not-so-plus side, this happened last year to a bass with delrin bridge adjusters. It was sitting on the rack next to a few other basses, the bridge was in the upright position under string tension with no obvious errors in setup. I was talking with another customer when we heard a loud crash, looked over, and everything had collapsed, dented up the top, and the adjuster had failed.. regardless of the fancy name you use, it is still just plastic...
Did the legs crack at all? The other problem I have with those adjustors is how much space they take up inside the leg. I've seen a couple bridges with cracked legs. A friend has a pretty unique Starker bridge(http://www.violinbridges.co.uk/search3.php?bridgeID=1009) on his bass that developed cracks above and below both adjustors. I ended up bushing the holes and installing some smaller aluminum ones. We both felt the tone was better afterwards. Those delrin ones are smooth though, gotta give em that.
