Elrick and Fodera China Copies

AGREED!

 

Do you think this a joke?!

You really do not get this issue do you...

What they are doing in China is blatant copyright and trademark infringement, plain and simple.

Do NOT support thieves like those people who create fake rip-offs of more quality basses.

That goes for any bass, not just the boutique manufacturers.

 

So! its still not shipped yet!?

 

Not only has it shipped, it arrived! http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f8/nbd-fauxdera-content-981940/

 

Looks like we have found the self proclaimed self righteous musicians applying for sainthood to the Angelic Musicians Celestial Society. I hope their lifestyle is of the same caliber ????????????????????????????????

 

It is a big joke to these people getting over excited that they can get one of these INFERIOR PIECES OF FIREWOOD. I accidentally found this morning, the BIGGEST PERPETRATOR of knockoff's yet. I will Not post the website and contribute to the people infringing on the level of luthier that Vinnie Fodera is. I will say that amongst the COMMONLY COPIED BRANDS, HERE'S THEIR INVENTORY
Fender, Sadowsky, Alembic, Music Man, G&L, Rickenbacker,Gibson, Spector, Warwick, Yamaha,Ibanez, ESP,Greco,Aria Pro and Hofner.

This makes me sick. I will forward the site to Vinnie and Roger Sadowsky. It's the least I can do being I play a Sadowsky and my uncle has both, Fodera and Sadowsky

 

Well just found Benavente, Zon, Pedulla, plus MTD and Ken Smith. They also have guitars and just about any amp brand you can imagine

 

Do you really think this eats into ANY of their profits? I don't.

People willing to buy a Fodera won't buy a knock-off, and those who buy knock-offs probably couldn't afford the Fodera in the first place.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, my friend.

 

+0.75

I agree mostly, but I don't think it started with Clinton. I thought political chat was avoided on here anyway...

The quoted post does make a valid point. China has, as far as I can make out, ratified the Kyoto Protocol. The US didn't, but the US already had robust legal measures in place to cap emissions. China doesn't appear to be doing anything (other than opening up new coal-fired power stations every week). Therefore this undermines any economic competiton, as US/EU manufacturers have to adhere to the same laws China can blithly ignore.

When you realise that a third of all zippers on clothing in the world comes out of one Chinese factory, you realise the scale of the issue here.

To get back to basses, the only people who will care about Elrick/Fodera instruments are other bassists, and they will far-more-likely criticise you for your purchase. Therefore I don't see the point. It would be like owning a cheap AC Cobra clone; the only people who care enough are those that will sniff out your fakery a mile away. The people that would say "nice wheels bro!" would say the same thing about any soft-top you rolled up in, and the only people who would give you genuine praise would single you out for trying to pass a forgery.

I would use the Chinese Elrick/Fodera money and buy a MIM P or J bass. At least you know it is built and finished to some degree of standards.

 

And it's that "criticism" from other bass players, I don't understand. If you can afford to buy a superior quality hand made bass, why be scorned by others???? If there were 2 dishes on your table, 1 with a burger and the other filet mignon and a monster lobster tail, which do you think most people would choose? And are they foolish for their choice??

 

BURGER!!!!

 

Am I the only one curious about this website?

 

I tend to agree with you, but theft is theft and I'm not down with that.

 

+1

If you consider how far a Fodera bass is from the standard Fender outline and design, it seems like an act of sheer lazyness to then copy this design verbatim.

I do wonder; has a Fodera been shipped to China, and was measured up to make these copies, or are they visual copies based on images of the original instruments?

 

Yes, theft is theft and copyright infringement is definitely copyright infringement.

 

Oh, I agree with that. Theft is theft...but Fodera's definitely not being hurt by this.

Your statement is contrary. If a Fodera is far from the norm, it would take much more effort to produce a copy than to copy a Fender P or J.

 

Folks, it's not just basses...Google the topic and there is an unlimited wealth of info on the Chinese and how they copy products, not just from the USA mind you, but from all over the world. When I consider this, combined with their human rights violations and their lax environmental policies I go out of my way to limit my purchases of products made there. It's impossible to do it completely. Large corporations defaulted manufacturing to China years ago...cheap labor = lower prices for American consumers, which we liked and bigger corporate profit's, which they liked. The same thing is now happening in Vietnam because China is no longer the "low cost producer". In my opinion this is one of the main reasons why our unemployment rate is still on the high side...jobs go and don't come back. So when I can I look for the "Made in USA" sticker because ultimately there is a high price associated with low cost.

Tim C.