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NBD! “Beginner” Fretless Has Me Hooked

Riff Ranger

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I’ve played bass for just over 30 years now, and have owned a fretless bass for most of that time—a headless, bodiless Westone Rail I had made fretless as well by a skilled luthier and family friend in the late 1990s—but I never really took to that particular instrument. I kept it around because it was just too dang weird, and did find myself writing some fretless parts on it for an instrumental piece with my then-new bandmate not quite a year ago. With my interest revived and my bandmate’s encouragement, I started looking somewhat more seriously into acquiring a fretless with ergonomics and style better suited to me; but I kept holding out, not wanting to spend a lot on something I might use only occasionally, unsure of what I wanted in a fretless.

Then I saw this for 120 USD among Guitar Center’s used listings, and I pounced immediately.
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Between my trust in Yamaha’s instruments (I already have two BBs and an acoustic guitar), that price, and GC’s generous return policy, I figured I had nothing to lose even if it came to me in rough shape; but this RBX260F arrived in excellent shape and ready to play right out of the box.

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with its Broadbass brethren

It sounds good, like the fretless Precision I expected, and plays kind of like a slightly sized-up TRBX or Jazz. I look forward to trying some heavy Ernie Ball Cobalt flatwound strings on it down in CGCF or even BEAD, but will give the standard-ish D’Addario set that it had upon arrival a bit of time.

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I’ve always said that instruments with black bodies (and black pickguards, where applicable) and dark fingerboards with unpainted maple headstocks look like someone forgot something, and that hasn’t changed with this one, but at this price I’ll put up with it. The plastic knobs look and feel cheap, and the tuning machines only slightly less so, but they both do their jobs well enough that I feel no immediate need to replace them. This bass will either convince me to paint the headstock black and replace the hardware or get a fancier fretless somewhere down the line, but it has already convinced me that I need to incorporate more fretless bass playing into my life!

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I’ve played bass for just over 30 years now, and have owned a fretless bass for most of that time—a headless, bodiless Westone Rail I had made fretless as well by a skilled luthier and family friend in the late 1990s—but I never really took to that particular instrument. I kept it around because it was just too dang weird, and did find myself writing some fretless parts on it for an instrumental piece with my then-new bandmate not quite a year ago. With my interest revived and my bandmate’s encouragement, I started looking somewhat more seriously into acquiring a fretless with ergonomics and style better suited to me; but I kept holding out, not wanting to spend a lot on something I might use only occasionally, unsure of what I wanted in a fretless.

Then I saw this for 120 USD among Guitar Center’s used listings, and I pounced immediately.
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Between my trust in Yamaha’s instruments (I already have two BBs and an acoustic guitar), that price, and GC’s generous return policy, I figured I had nothing to lose even if it came to me in rough shape; but this RBX260F arrived in excellent shape and ready to play right out of the box.

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with its Broadbass brethren

It sounds good, like the fretless Precision I expected, and plays kind of like a slightly sized-up TRBX or Jazz. I look forward to trying some heavy Ernie Ball Cobalt flatwound strings on it down in CGCF or even BEAD, but will give the standard-ish D’Addario set that it had upon arrival a bit of time.

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I’ve always said that instruments with black bodies (and black pickguards, where applicable) and dark fingerboards with unpainted maple headstocks look like someone forgot something, and that hasn’t changed with this one, but at this price I’ll put up with it. The plastic knobs look and feel cheap, and the tuning machines only slightly less so, but they both do their jobs well enough that I feel no immediate need to replace them. This bass will either convince me to paint the headstock black and replace the hardware or get a fancier fretless somewhere down the line, but it has already convinced me that I need to incorporate more fretless bass playing into my life!

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Yamaha has made some fabulous budget fretless basses over the years.
 
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Congrats, nice thick slab-o-rosewood on that one. I have an RBX-250 I added a 2 octave neck and I am about to yank the frets later in the week. Enjoy your bass!
I had pretty much counted on Yamaha delivering solid essentials on an instrument this inexpensive, and I got exactly that in this one now that frets have become more of a “nice-to-have” than a necessity: good electronics, good body, great finish, good neck, great fingerboard.

I would love to see yours here when you get done with its transformation:

https://www.talkbass.com/threads/lets-see-your-hot-rodded-cheapo-basses.1366139/

Mine could end up in that thread as well somewhere down the line.
 
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I had pretty much counted on Yamaha delivering solid essentials on an instrument this inexpensive, and I got exactly that in this one now that frets have become more of a “nice-to-have” than a necessity: good electronics, good body, great finish, good neck, great fingerboard.

I would love to see yours here when you get done with its transformation:

https://www.talkbass.com/threads/lets-see-your-hot-rodded-cheapo-basses.1366139/
Yep it’s a worthy budget bass, this was the wifey’s bought new for her way back when she wanted to learn to play, it ended up as a house bass/back-up in it’s (early days) that just never let me down.

Just as you said:
“good electronics, good body, great finish, good neck, great fingerboard.”

I posted a couple pics with the two octave neck/new bridge over in your
“hot-rodded-cheapo-basses” thread, I’ll post a couple more once de-fretted…:thumbsup:
 
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I was in a similar situation in that I purchased a fretless that I rarely played. About 7 months ago I decided to really give it another try, a proper try, and not give up easily. I was feeling bad about all the money I spent on it when it was just sitting in its case.

Since then, it's all I've been playing. Been practicing nearly every day and I've grown to like it a lot. At this point when I pick up a fretted bass it feels really weird, like the frets are in the way.

For anyone interested in learning fretless, here's my advice, for what it's worth: stick with it and don't give up. At first just keep it simple and play it in a manner that if one were listening they wouldn't know that it's a fretless - just work on intonation/playing in tune. (You'll probably find yourself staring at your fretting hand all the time, but don't worry about it.) Then gradually start to throw in the fun stuff that you can only do on a fretless. Be patient, keep it simple, progress may feel slow but if you stick with it one day you'll find that you've come a long way.
 
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+1 Come Back and Stay is an ESSENTIAL learn!!! As well as Peter Gabriel's Sledgehammer!
As I came up with the fretless parts I had mentioned on the Rail around this time last year, I found myself using a pick and an octave pedal, and I thought “don’t I know this sound from somewhere?” :laugh: