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Volume Wars – EQ in the rehearsal room

Some collected tips from the web for a good sound-mix in the rehearsal room:


Volume Wars

Ok you've got all your gear together and away you go with the first song.
You can't hear yourself over the drums so you turn up a bit.
Now the guitarist can't hear their licks so they turn up a bit.
Now the bassist decides they are too quiet and they turn up
so you can't hear the vocals and these go up again.
After two songs everyone is turned up to 11 and no-one has
any idea of what they are doing through the mud.
Welcome to the volume war.



Getting Your Room to Sound Right

The sound level of the drums generally determines the overall sound level in the room.
Lower frequencies from the kick drum are usually less of a concern in a practice room as this keeps everyone playing in time.
It is usually the cymbals, snare and toms that overwhelm and cause the guitarist to turn up.
This snow balls as each player tries to hear their instrument.
A good solution is to add extra absorption around and above the drum kit.
This will help control the spill and reduce the overall sound pressure in the room.
Another way to help balance the sound is to try to avoid using
radical ‘smile’ curves on the PA, guitars and bass.

It is natural to want to reduce the mid range as our ears are much more sensitive to the frequencies in the vocal range.
But when you reduce the mids by cutting them out, you then have to make up for it by increasing the volume level.
Try leaving the EQ as flat as possible on all instruments and the PA.
This will ensure the mid-range information that your brain and ears need to identify pitch is as clear as possible andwill help you keep the volume level down in the room.
Don’t worry… your brain is a lot smarter than you think. Your ‘ears’ will automatically compensate as you get use to playing in the room.


Balancing the sound

The drums set the basic sound level, so first of all balance the bass against the drums, taking note of connection between the kick drum and the bass.

This can be a good point to set a rough vocal level, or at least get an idea of how much headroom is available.

Balance the guitars against the drums/bass sound.
They should not dominate, the whole sound should be have weight and power.
Then, hopefully you will have some headroom left for your vocals,
if not you will have to turn everything else down, and in particular anything that clashes with the vocal sound.

Repeat: If you still have problems then turn everything else DOWN!
If that is impossible, then you need to find another practice venue!






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Well this isn't going to help you but I use IEM and I just joined a new band that rehearses in a bedroom. 5 players, stupid loud. Week 2 I came in with a mini mixer and took a tap off their board and ran my bass into the mixer as well. Great, volume nearly gone. Third rehearsal the lead sing tried my back up buds and loved it. Cut to 5th rehearsal, the entire band went out and bought matching buds and we now use my DL1608 mixer. They all use their iphones for their mixes. The only amp is the guitar player and live drums. Rehearsing is now such fun and I stay on the high for hours.
 
I second the IEM for rehearsal idea. It's the best move I ever made. While I still need to buy my own mixer, I have access to an X32, a Mixwiz (hey, 6 auxes!), and a (yukkk) Presonus SL24. And I own 4 sets of Shure E5 buds, as well as my own 1964 IEMs. In all cases, we're gone to IEMs for rehearsal. Everyone gets a vocal mic, whether they sing or not so we can communicate. Two of the groups I play in, the guitar players have some modeling amps that sound great! the 3rd one, we put his amp in the closet under blankets. For drums, we use a kick mic and a condenser overhead, unless we plan to record. This has made rehearsals so pleasant, it's crazy. Everyone be like, why did it take so long to think of doing this?
 
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Nice Idea but IEM is not really cheap.

Hearing loss is also a high price to pay.

Custom earbuds and wireless drive up the price of IEM systems. Neither of those is crucial for an IEM system, especially one for rehearsals. Depending on how loud the band gets, over-the-ear headphones can be used instead of custom earbuds. (If the volume's high, OTS earbuds worn under noise protection earmuffs are better.) And instead of running multiple wireless systems for everyone, use the mixer's aux sends to feed either a multi-channel headphone amp or individual headphone amps.
 
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Good thoughts, but it all starts with volume. The louder things are the harder it is to sift through all of what is going on around you to hear what you are doing. Once the volume war starts it's a wrestling match over a rapidly diminishing supply of dynamic range. True, usually it's the drums that establish the floor SPL, but once the escalation starts what you should do is everybody stop and turn down. Get your drummer to play with lighter sticks or hot rods if he cannot hold back. Use small wedges for monitors at as low volume as possible instead of a full room wash. Resist the urge to derive pleasure from volume.

I worked with a guy once who was our songwriter, lead singer, and guitarist who set his volumes at the beginning of rehearsal. When we couldn't hear him he steadfastly refused to turn up; he gave us no choice but to turn down. It worked.
 
Nice Idea but IEM is not really cheap.

No you are wrong there. You don't need to go wireless and you can get buy with the $100 shure 215's I think is the model. Everyone in my band uses a little 4 channel mixer (I own 4) but they are like $50. That way they control their own volume and tone control from there. They all use their iphones for on the spot adjustments. Not actually needed but nice. So roughly $100 and heck I've done it using just headphones so that is not an acceptable argument in IMHO. People we are bass players, we are use to having to think outside the box so don't stop at your monitoring. Lead the band just we do when we play !
 
Wierd, the way we rehearse a I barely even need a bass in my hands. Unless its a tune where I'm singing lead. We learn the tunes independently and work out the arrangement in rehearsal. We do separate vocal rehersals without our non-singing drummer to work out harmony. Our rehearsals are pretty quiet even with drums. We work enough that nobody needs to get their rocks off with volume ... Then again we aren't loud on stage playing live either.
 
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Nice Idea but IEM is not really cheap.

There are some cheap options now, which are... cheaper. I don't know what the quality is like for the stuff that's 3 body packs and a transmitter for $200. I'd expect you'd need to replace the actual earbuds straight away, though, so I suppose you'd need to factor in at least $50 per person for an upgrade to those. So the realistic cost for a three piece would be $350, and I'd worry about the chances of the base station or a body pack failing, and you might have a four or five piece, so I'd factor in two base stations and a spare body pack...

Like I said, I haven't tried them out because now the cost is $650 for a four piece, which even at the cheap end is a significant investment for an unknown level of quality. It might still be worth it if there is a returns policy.
 
No you are wrong there. You don't need to go wireless and you can get buy with the $100 shure 215's I think is the model. Everyone in my band uses a little 4 channel mixer (I own 4) but they are like $50. That way they control their own volume and tone control from there. They all use their iphones for on the spot adjustments. Not actually needed but nice. So roughly $100 and heck I've done it using just headphones so that is not an acceptable argument in IMHO. People we are bass players, we are use to having to think outside the box so don't stop at your monitoring. Lead the band just we do when we play !

I can see that being tricky live or if, like the band I was most recently in, there was a lot of movement so wired IEMs would just have complicated things. Sounds great for more static bands or for static practices. If you are required to run around the stage dressed as a Triffid (ref: 'Brian Pern: A life in rock' mockumentary) it might be trickier :)
 
Another tip: Location! Moving the amplifiers, especially the bass amp, to a different part of the room can make a world of difference. Experiment with different locations for everyone if you have the time.
 
Yesterday I read a thread in the "ask Lee Sklar" forum. He says that when he did stadium shows with Phil Collins, they could talk to each other on stage in a normal tone of voice and hear each other easily. I've also seen videos of him doing indoor shows with bands like Toto, both performances and soundchecks, with the same thing. So nobody tell me you have to play crazy loud to play rock.
 
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Guitards with tons of bass in thier 4 or 8 "12 rig so they can "chug".
Part of rehearsal is finding out how to play quiet as possible
 

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Yesterday I read a thread in the "ask Lee Sklar" forum. He says that when he did stadium shows with Phil Collins, they could talk to each other on stage in a normal tone of voice and hear each other easily. I've also seen videos of him doing indoor shows with bands like Toto, both performances and soundchecks, with the same thing. So nobody tell me you have to play crazy loud to play rock.

Wow, that's impressive low stage volume for a big gig. All credit to them for managing that.
 
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