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For sale Gamut Pistoy plus Evah , Helicore bundle

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The following strings are used and in excellent condition.
Gamut Pistoy D .102. $75.00
Gamut Pistoy G. .078. $50.00
Will include Evah E and A and Helicore E and A ...I've sold my basses and need to get rid if these. 125.00 for all. John

Prices include shipping CONUS, PayPal. John
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john allemond

john allemond

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Richard Simon said:
Dumb question #432:

do Gamut Red Diamonds sound ‘dark’?
I have a bass that sounds ‘dark’ with Spirocore mediums, and wonder if would guts would sound even darker.
Thank you
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If Spiro sound dark, you have a very dark bass indeed.... I've always felt that "dark" designated lack of sustain and "bright" being the opposite....so guts will not "brighten" your bass, IMHO and YMMV...John
 
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Or perhaps the Spiro medium are too much tension for your bass, and a lower tension string such as guts will sound better. Just changing the G string won’t necessarily give you that answer.
 
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…I found that this Gamut G didn’t bow easily, nor did it sound pleasing when plucked. I didn’t want to stretch all of them only to remove them.
I’ve become used to the brightness, sustain and quick response of Spiros. When these used guts turned up locally, I thought it was an economical way to introduce them to my ‘working’ bass.
My local luthier checked out the bass after I’d put all Spiro mediums in it, and he didn’t express concern about the tension.
I’ve listed the guts for sale and already lowered the price but have had no response. I’ve seen a number of players express a preference for two guts on top and conventional strings below. Players who aren’t responding might be of that school and aren’t interested in a complete set of guts.
Rather than give them away, I might put them on another bass and give them some time. That is already a dark sounding bass, so the guts might not be the answer there either.
 
john allemond

john allemond

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Richard Simon said:
…I found that this Gamut G didn’t bow easily, nor did it sound pleasing when plucked. I didn’t want to stretch all of them only to remove them.
I’ve become used to the brightness, sustain and quick response of Spiros. When these used guts turned up locally, I thought it was an economical way to introduce them to my ‘working’ bass.
My local luthier checked out the bass after I’d put all Spiro mediums in it, and he didn’t express concern about the tension.
I’ve listed the guts for sale and already lowered the price but have had no response. I’ve seen a number of players express a preference for two guts on top and conventional strings below. Players who aren’t responding might be of that school and aren’t interested in a complete set of guts.
Rather than give them away, I might put them on another bass and give them some time. That is already a dark sounding bass, so the guts might not be the answer there either.
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The tension may not be a structural concern, however the higher tension can have a dampening effect. John
 
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john allemond said:
If Spiro sound dark, you have a very dark bass indeed.... I've always felt that "dark" designated lack of sustain and "bright" being the opposite....so guts will not "brighten" your bass, IMHO and YMMV...John
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John, I agree with your first and last statements, but in regards to the second, sustain and brightness are two different things.

Dark and Bright generally correlate with sustain but really refer to timbre, not length of sustain. The Spirocore has little material in it to dampen vibration, so it has a bright timbre and sustains a long time. In contrast, the Bel Canto (for example) has more dampening material in its construction, reducing overtones and sustaining length. A Gamut Pistoy string has no material in it other than animal intestines; I would not call it "dark" at all, but the fact that it is not solid (rather, twisted together) does cause quicker note decay.

When I bow my Pistoys on my dark-timbred bass, they are plenty bright. So are the Gamut wrapped guts on E and A. But pizz, they don't sustain quite as long as Spiros!

Small apologies for continuing the hijack of a for-sale ad...
 

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