I wanted these to be my thing, but they just aren't. They are a few of years old and were on back up, fun jam, not gigging bass. They were on a Modulus sweet spot and I don't think I ever cut them. I took them off and on a few times to try them on my Modulus Genesis, as you see the silks are worn. If you haven't tried them before here is your chance, or if you like them stretched out and worn in, these may be for you. CONUS.