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Compare and contrast: Bag End stack vs fFearful

Balog

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Mar 19, 2009
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I'm currently cab-less, and until I move some basses I can't pony up any money for a new one. I've used a fFearful 12/6 as well as a nearful 15/6 in the past and I adore them. In addition to bass tone I found they work great for playing recorded music through, a huge benefit for me.

Unfortunately, no one is offering to trade me FF for my basses, but someone has offered me a Bag End stack: S15d and an S15XD to be exact. Now, I know they won't match my beloved 15/6 in every respect, but what can I expect from them in comparison? Streamliner 900, Epi EB-0 clone in EADG with Chromes, no super loud or dub reggae stuff.
 
Very different sounding cabs. I see you are in Washington. BassNW is a stocking dealer for Bag end. Great guys. I really like the Bag End sound. Bought a GK Fusion head at Bass NW and then picked up a couple of used Bag Ends locally.

I had a Baer ML112 for a minute and a half. Didn't work for me. Just as many folks on here would take the Baer over the Bag Ends any day.
 
I owned a S15D for a short time. Band leader hated it so I moved on. Tonally, they are pretty night and day different from fEARful. The BE have very subdued lows and lots of mids. The great thing about the fEARfuls is that with EQ I can get them to sound like the BE if I want that. I often eq in quite a bit of low-mids. However, I have found that usually adding lows to cab that doesnt have them naturally just doesnt sound as good... or that good in general.

What about selling that bass and using the money to buy the speakerhardware kit, drivers etc and build yourself a 12/6 alpha?

As you know the 12/6 is one hell of a cab.
 
Heck, you could even do the trade for that BE stack, play thru it for awhile and see if it blows your hair back. If not, you should be able to flip the two cabs for $600 and that should definitely be enough for a 12/6 alpha build. The bag ends definitely have their fan base and they will sell.
 
I own a small Bag End rig along with my big Fearfuls. The Bag Ends are a bit more polite compared to the FFs and don't sound as open. I love the cabs but have definitely become spoiled by the FFs!

Lonnybass
 
I had a Baer ML112 for a minute and a half. Didn't work for me. Just as many folks on here would take the Baer over the Bag Ends any day.

Same here. There is a solid-ness in the Bag End sound. The rear porting is also worth mentioning. Depending on where you place them in relation to a wall you will get plenty of low end. I just did an outdoor gig with no PA support set up on concrete against a brick wall and I had all the booty I could use. The drummers like it too:bassist:

I had a nice LDS 15/6 and it really sounded lush. But when the going got tough it was the Bagstack that punched me through.
 
It was mainly the resale I was worried about :::BASSIST:::, I know these are an older design and selling cabs is always a chore anyway with shipping and all. If I can most likely flip them easily if they don't work then I'll do it.
 
I'm currently cab-less, and until I move some basses I can't pony up any money for a new one. I've used a fFearful 12/6 as well as a nearful 15/6 in the past and I adore them. In addition to bass tone I found they work great for playing recorded music through, a huge benefit for me.

Unfortunately, no one is offering to trade me FF for my basses, but someone has offered me a Bag End stack: S15d and an S15XD to be exact. Now, I know they won't match my beloved 15/6 in every respect, but what can I expect from them in comparison? Streamliner 900, Epi EB-0 clone in EADG with Chromes, no super loud or dub reggae stuff.

That is a classic stack. The 'x' model has a beautiful sounding coax tweeter. It has no attenuator control, and can be a bit much with a single cab, but stacking with the non-x model is just perfect.

I owned a fEARful 15/6 for a short while and have played many versions of cabs with the LF subwoofer and various mid drivers, so very familiar with that. I gigged that particular Bag stack for years back in the day. Classic, if a bit heavy (around 50 pounds per cab).

Very different sounding cabs. The Bags will be more efficient (louder per watt), much warmer, meaning that the more full range driver has some very nice break-up characteristics. These particular Bag's emphasize the lower midrange and don't extend nearly as low and the FF's (which I personally find a positive, but others of course prefer a bit more low end at the expense of warm midrange punch and definition). The FF will be brighter in the 2K region, but not nearly as sweet up top (the Bag end tweeter and crossover is beautifully warm sounding).

While port location in general doesn't make a difference, the particular design of those particular Bag End rear ports (big hole cut right behind the driver) does make these cabs a bit more sensitive to placement than most others.

You will find the Bag's much more 'articulate' due to the much higher mid mid versus deep bass voicing... lots of 'space between the notes'. This is especially the case if you are gigging the Streamliner, which is mid relaxed and low end 'big'. The Bag End voicing is a wonderful yin yang with that head, and will really give you a sort of 'sealed cab' vintage vibe, versus the much wider, more mid polite FF voicing. Absolutely GREAT match-up with the Streamliner for slotting an old school 'tube and flatwound' tone in a mix.

No amount of knob twisting will make either cab sound like the other. Very different response, voicing, and distortion characteristics. I greatly prefer the Bag Ends myself, but of course, the FF also 'does what it is designed to do' if you like that more 'PA cab' type experience.

IMO and a lot of IME!

Edit: Per the OP, if you 'adore' the FF cabs, you will most likely not dig the Bag Ends much. Totally opposite end of the voicing continuum.
 
Thanks for the great input everyone. Ken: I really enjoyed the fF's I've played, but I have to admit I have very little experience outside of them with high quality cabs. I think I'll take this trade and report on how I like them comparatively.
 
Thanks for the great input everyone. Ken: I really enjoyed the fF's I've played, but I have to admit I have very little experience outside of them with high quality cabs. I think I'll take this trade and report on how I like them comparatively.

Let us know your take on it. Definitely will be a different experience for you. Hope it works out. GREAT, classic, iconic cabs. Back in the day, that particular Bag End stack was THE thing, and was the 'mini rig of doom' of the 80's.
 
Ok, if all goes well I'll be trading my Peavey for the pair of Bag Ends this weekend. I'll mess about with them and report back, then either flip them for the 15/6 in Portland (or buy a flat pack) or keep them if they do it for me.
 
Traded. Now I just have to wait for my Streamliner to get here (sold off my entire rig a while back and just started trading spare basses to get stuff back).

And of course no pics no cabs.

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