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The Case of the Farting Mesa Boogie

Prepare yourself, this is a long, sad and sordid tale. I have been on a long, long search for the perfect bass amp. I wanted something with a very warm, deep, organic sound, capable of a smooth, fluid overdrive; suited for playing small venues. In other words I didn’t want a massive bass monolith, stacked to the ceiling and disintegrating everyone in the bar when it’s set at one-and-half.

On that note; I tried everything I could find that might fit the bill. Nothing seemed to be quite what I was looking for. Enter the Mesa Boogie Walkabout Scout. I walked into the local GC and there it was, and for five minutes, I thought that I had found my amp… until it began to make a mysterious farting sound- similar to that of a blown speaker.

I talked to my salesperson and he said that they had received several other Scouts, all with the same problem. He also went on about how Mesa had a very sketchy track record as far as reliability was concerned. I had heard about these reliability issues in the past. However, I had always figured that most of the trash talking came from the mouths of Mesa bashers. Now, I was beginning to wonder, and beginning to sweat. I hadn’t found anything else within range that sounded anywhere near as good as the Scout.

So, I went to another local Mesa dealer, same problem. Two other dealers, same problem. Four of the five Scouts that I’ve tried all had the same problem, I also stumbled across a used head, guess what, it didn’t work.

So here’s the question. What is going on with Mesa? I thought that they prided themselves on quality, or is that a thing of the past? For the prices that they charge, you should have an amp that will outlive all of us, and they let this slip through the cracks and don’t really seem to care or seem to be addressing the problem… wow.

Needless to say, I’m back on the trail, searching for that holy-grail sound…

Any recommendations?

Cheers,
TC
 
Can't comment on your specific situation, but I do believe that GC is no longer a Mesa dealer and that the parting was not a good one. It would not surprise me that a salesperson would try to sell you something else.

My guess is that possibly those Scouts had been shipped around a bit (I assume they are on blowout at a limited number of GC's). It would not surprise me if a preamp tube or two was damaged or unseated if these were shipped and reshipped.

Other than a loud fan, I've heard no reliability issues with these heads or combo's. Nice, warm, tubey tone!

IMO
 
Can't comment on your specific situation, but I do believe that GC is no longer a Mesa dealer and that the parting was not a good one. It would not surprise me that a salesperson would try to sell you something else.

My guess is that possibly those Scouts had been shipped around a bit (I assume they are on blowout at a limited number of GC's). It would not surprise me if a preamp tube or two was damaged or unseated if these were shipped and reshipped.

Other than a loud fan, I've heard no reliability issues with these heads or combo's. Nice, warm, tubey tone!

IMO

Two of the amps were at different music stores.
 
Yeah. should be in Amps...

Your story wasn't too long, or very sordid either, but I find it kinda strange. Sorry you still haven't found your Holy Grail.

I've owned a WalkAbout, it was a terrific sounding head, no problems whatsoever.
I haven't used a Scout cab, but I've heard nothing but glowing reports from users here on TB and other forums.
And while it's possible that Mesa, like any company, could have a faulty product slip through production, I don't see your point at all about their quality slipping.
The M-Pulse line is among the best- whether Mesa is your sound or not, that's another story. The 400+ has been an icon of heads without reliability issues for years.
My out-of-production Diesel cab has performed flawlessly, as has my Buster 2x10, needing no maintenance other than re-tubing.

Too bad you had those experiences, but the Scout line of combos has been out on the market for a few years now; it's received far more praise than scorn, and I haven't heard of any wide-spread problems with them.
Either I've missed something, or you were unfortunate.
I've not heard that kind of feedback from any Mesa dealers either.

Oh well---Good luck.
 
Maybe you are just expecting too much volume from them and make in the speakers fart because you are pushing them too hard.
I have not payed any mesa gear so I can't speak from experience, but I just don't see them screwing the pooch this hard unless USM bought them too.
Jonathan
 
Two of the amps were at different music stores.

Hmmm... don't know what's going on then. When I had my Scout, it would take a TOTAL pounding without the speaker breaking up at all. My best guess is still preamp tube issues, since these are now 'blow out' stock at GC. I'm surprised there is any Mesa stuff left, since they haven't been a dealer for a while (I think I have that correct?).
 
I remember helping a friend troubleshoot his Walkabout scout shortly after they first came out. If I recall correctly Mesa put a an overly long speaker cable on those that if the cable was positioned a certian way inside the cab it would rest against the passive radiator cone on the bottom and fart away.

Try pulling the excess cable out of the cab.
 
I remember helping a friend troubleshoot his Walkabout scout shortly after they first came out. If I recall correctly Mesa put a an overly long speaker cable on those that if the cable was positioned a certian way inside the cab it would rest against the passive radiator cone on the bottom and fart away.

Try pulling the excess cable out of the cab.

That sounds interesting, I have a suspicion that it is related to the passive radiator in some way. The evil sound seems to occur as the not is decaying- which I thought was a very strange problem and one that I had not encountered before.
 
I have a Mesa M-Pulse 600 that I love. However, if I turn up the gain past about one o'clock, the tone breaks up badly. The user guide for my amp, if I remember right, says not to turn the gain above that point. The nasty sound I get could be described as a kind of farting noise. It's definitely not warm overdriven tone.

As long as I don't turn the gain up past one o'clock, dang that amp is so sweet.

So, are you cranking the gain up to high?
 
I have probably owned more Mesa gear than anybody on this site, and right now I'm on my second Walkabout. Without exception, every amp I've had from them has been stellar. I even worked at the factory for a while, and worked for a Mesa dealer for close to 10 years.

I rarely ever saw a Mesa amp that was faulty, until GC opened up their distribution center. Many of the Mesa amps got bumped around quite a bit before they even made it to the stores, and if they survived that, they were severly abused while in the stores. I would walk into the Boogie room and find kids flipping the switches on and off of $2k all tube heads - not good.

Mesa, like every company out there, has a certain allowance that they make for faulty amps. It's simply impossible for any company anywhere to make that many amps and not have some duds go out the door. However, if they make too many faulty amps, they start losing a lot of money on warranty repairs, and when that happens, they generally shut down production, find the problem, fix it, and move on. Mesa is making way more amp than they used to (thanks GC :eyebrow: ), but the percentage of faulty amps that come back to them remains at the same level it has always been: very, very low.

Usually my first thought when somebody is having a problem with the same type of amp over and over again, my first suspicion is user error.
 
I love my Mesa Walkabout Scout!
About seven months after I bought it(new), the speaker died on me. It didn't blow, just kinda faded out on me during practice and never came back.

I called Mesa and told them that my speaker had died and they asked me a few simple questions and promptly sent me a new speaker under warranty. All I had to do was install it and ship the defective one back. I couldn't be happier with their customer service. :D