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Air travel with a bass

I have never in my life flown on a plane with a musical instrument, so I don't know how it works. Do they make you check them because of their size? If so, do they have some special handling procedures for musical instruments? Because if they treat them like they treat all other baggage, there is no WAY I'm ever flying with one of my basses. I can't imagine they'd let you carry them on, but at the same time, the alternative is too horrible to imagine.

So how do you fly with a bass?

For the record, the bass I'm considering flying with is an acoustic.
 
I'll subscribe to this thread as im flying from Nova Scotia to New Jersey with a stopover in Toronto so im going to need to figure out how to travel with it. Im working at a summer camp for kids In New York and theres no way im spending time with 50 8 year olds and not unwinding with some bass time!
 
OK, here's the deal...I fly on the average twice a month with a bass and have been to most major airports. There are some airlines that will let you carry on a bass in a gig bag, but many won't. Some will make you gate check it, some will make you box it up in a cardboard box and send it as baggage. I don't even take the chance anymore. I bought an SKB Bass Safe and check my bass with my luggage. Since using it, my basses haven't endured even a scratch from flying. When I used to carry my bass in a gig bag and put it in the carry-on bin, I got it dinged lots of times from idiots putting their giant carry-on suitcases on top of it, so I actually feel better with it in the Bass Safe. Put a fragile sticker on it, and even though it might not prevent the baggage handlers from putting it on the bottom of a pile, it usually keeps them from throwing it. The Bass Safe leaves a lot to be desired since the locks are so flimsy, but I tie and wrap a bungee cord around the handle and it holds it together very well.

Bottom line, there is no 100% safe way to fly with a bass. And shipping a bass by FedEx or UPS is no better, either. Either get used to it or don't fly with a bass.
 
+1 for meev, although I've opted for the EBS Microbass II since it can also handle an upright signal, but EBS changed distributors when I bought it and they still haven't shipped it. But definitely think about getting a beater bass if you don't want to risk your good bass. I fly with my SX P copy or my Turser Beatle bass ONLY. I used to fly with my good basses, but I used to cringe every time. If something happens to one of those, I'm only out a couple hundred bucks tops.
 
First of all; insure it. Secondly make sure that it's securely locked in an ATA approved case. The case in a case design is probably the safest method. Loosen the strings as mentioned above. Bringing a bass in a gig bag only to find out that thier going to make you check it is a great way to miss a flight and a gig. Thirdly never fly with an irreplaceble instrument, insured or not. They have no problems with losing my jeans and dirty socks; what makes me think they're going to take care of my instrument? Lastly; have a back up plan in case number three above happens. Get the phone number for a few music stores that can rent you a replacement bass in case the unthinkable happens. This has saved my bacon on a couple of occasions. Fortunately that always found it eventually (knock on wood)...

If none of the above works for you, you could always get your bass its own seat!
 
I traveled with my bass in a hard shell case that's not ATA approved once. A 16 hours flight from US to Hong Kong. My luggages got handled twice from an inland air flight to an international flight. I stuffed bubble wrappings to every empty space there's left inside the case. I declared it as fragile, and hope for the best. It arrived to destination in one piece with no dings or scratch.
 
After reading a whole lot of info on talkbass, I recently invested in an SKB golf case to fly the bass and guitar I bought back to New Zealand.

$150US, hardshell, ATA approved, doesn't separate into 2 pieces when the latches are undone by security agents (which can happen with the Bass Safe AFAIK), and holds 2 instruments in gig bags. Acoustic bass guitar may or may not fit - try before you buy. If it's a Tacoma, forgetaboutit. Bass(es) go in gig bags into the case, padded with extra clothes etc. Not a scratch. Not even out of tune much! Very solid, and about as much assurance as you're gonna get without getting a massive road case and paying excess baggage charges. BTW, most airlines exempt golf cases from oversize baggage charges... Nice.:bassist:

Steve
 
OK, here's the deal...I fly on the average twice a month with a bass and have been to most major airports. There are some airlines that will let you carry on a bass in a gig bag, but many won't. Some will make you gate check it, some will make you box it up in a cardboard box and send it as baggage. I don't even take the chance anymore. I bought an SKB Bass Safe and check my bass with my luggage. Since using it, my basses haven't endured even a scratch from flying. When I used to carry my bass in a gig bag and put it in the carry-on bin, I got it dinged lots of times from idiots putting their giant carry-on suitcases on top of it, so I actually feel better with it in the Bass Safe. Put a fragile sticker on it, and even though it might not prevent the baggage handlers from putting it on the bottom of a pile, it usually keeps them from throwing it. The Bass Safe leaves a lot to be desired since the locks are so flimsy, but I tie and wrap a bungee cord around the handle and it holds it together very well.

Bottom line, there is no 100% safe way to fly with a bass. And shipping a bass by FedEx or UPS is no better, either. Either get used to it or don't fly with a bass.

I agree with everything said here. Great advice.

I have flown with my bass hundreds of time over the last ten years. I have used gig bags, big-ole heavy road cases, and plastic SKB-style cases. In all that time I've only had two instruments broken (that's what insurance is all about).

Lately, I have been using the SKB Bass Safe & I love it. The latches definitely look they will break eventually - at which time I will invoke SKB's great warranty!

Southwest Airlines has always accomodated my gig-bag as carry-on. Even on a full flight. Just make sure you are in the "A" boarding group.

Frontier Airlines has also been easy to work with regarding gig-bag carry on.

I've never had damage resulting from "gate-checking" my gig bag on a small turbo-prop or commuter jet.

Delta Airlines has been the worst, traditionally. They refused carry-ons all together and wanted to charge exhorbitant fees for checking instruments. The musicians union boycotted them recently & apparantly won some concessions. Delta should be willing to accept guitars as carry-on luggage. I haven't tested their new policy yet, however.

Most of the other airlines are a "crap-shoot" regarding gig-bag carry-ons. For this reason, I've found the Bass Safe to be the path-of-least-resistance in most situations. JimmyM is right on the money with: "Bottom line, there is no 100% safe way to fly with a bass." So true!

Also, if you do use a gig bag, I would suggest something with superior padding. Many gig bags are just too thin to provide adequate protection for this kind of travel. I spent the extra money for an extra-heavy duty Levy's hemp gig bag that has more than paid for itself over the years.

As far as detuning strings, I've heard a lot of mixed messages on this issue. Airlines will sometimes ask if you have detuned - always respond with a "Yes", trust me. I no longer detune when checking my electric instruments. I have been advised by too many actual experts that it is better for the neck to leave it at proper tension. The truss rod will end up stressing the neck too much in the opposite direction when detuned!

I hope all of this is helpful.

On a side-note, here is a story about one of my baggage-claim nightmares:

I flew into chicago for a high-profile charity gig that was sponsored by VH1. Since scheduling was tight (I was already in the middle of a tour), I arrived the day of the show with only an hour or less before soundcheck.

I was using my MIA Jazz Deluxe primarily in those days, packed in the original plastic case. As my bass came out on the carousel, I was horrified to see the basses' headstock poking out of the black plastic case! The case had been torn open (presumably by some sort of machinery) at the top end & generally cracked and ripped open.

Upon inspecting my bass, I couldn't believe it's condition. While the case was instantly relegated to trash, the only damage to the bass was some nicks & dents on the headstock along with the "A" & "G" tuning pegs being knocked off!

I had no time to secure parts or a backup bass before the soundcheck & performance. Playing with just an "E" & "D" string was a challenge that I'd rather not repeat!

VH1 was sympathetic enough to give me a gig-bag. Thanks, VH1!

The Jazz Deluxe is still in active duty to this day. Albeit with two new tuners!
 
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Yeah, tell me too, my ATA road case boat anchor is killing me.

However, I might also add, that I have mostly shipped via Fed-Ex when it is a valuable instrument that I need for a recording. I use the same box/case Sadowsky and Valenti use to ship.
 
That is exactly what I want to do. But I never figured out what SKB golf case exactly fits basses.

I am not at home with the case, but I'm 99.999% sure it's this one:
http://www.shopatron.com/product/product_id=SKB2SKB-4814W/328.0.9157.10010.0.0.0

Home that link works - it's directly linked from the SKB site (www.skbcases.com)

SKB 2SKB-4814W ATA Deluxe Golf Travel Case

The fatter end accomodates the body.
I can't vouch for it fitting all basses, but I used it for a Dean Rhapsody 12ver (34" scale, long headstock to accomodate 12 tuners, mid-size body) in a thick gig-bag designed to hold 35" scale basses, plus an OLP electric 12 string guitar wrapped in clothes, plus miscelaneous pieces of clothing. You will need gig bags and other packing material such as clothes.

The case was not treated well by baggage handlers - my old hardshell Samsonite suitcase got a corner busted on the same set of flights and there were a few big scuffs on the outside, but the inside was perfect.

Bear in mind, this was only 2 flights, so I can't vouch for longevity. But it certainly worked for me.

Do the Golf-Bag boxes & keyboard cases get charged as oversize? I'm curious

AFAIK, airlines within the US, and many other carriers, exempt golf cases from oversize charges and let you take a golf case in place of one piece of checked luggage. This is certainly the case for United and Air New Zealand - I checked this thoroughly before taking the golf case option.

And just to make sure I didn't get stung for not having golf equipment in a "golf case" I bought a putter at a thrift store for 5 bucks and tossed it in there too!
 

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