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Just pimped my Sterling Ray34.

This is the fifth StingRay I've owned - it's the first one that's not American and, in many ways, it's the best one that I've had so far :eek:.

Now, I don't want to over-hype this Indonesian bass, so I should clarify that statement with some further exlplanation. My other StingRays were; a 1977 (pre-EB), two early Ernie Ball models with 2 band EQs and a 2006 Ernie Ball with a 3 band EQ. The most 'magical' tones came from the '77 Ray and the Ray34 can't compete with that, but I found the '77 bass pretty horrible to play, as the frets were worn right down and I have a really strong aversion to nitro cellulose lacquer on bass necks :spit: (which this bass had). Even the bare wood on the 2006 Ray got quick sticky when my hands became sweaty, so that wasn't the perfect solution either :hmm:.

Essentially, this new bass has the best playability (low action, good string volume balance, relatively few dead spot issues and good sustain) of any StingRay I've ever played and now that I've made some modifications, it has a tone that I think is 'better' than the 2006 USA 3 band Ray. At least, it sounds closer to the 'classic' StingRay tone than either my 2006 bass, or either of my mid-'80s basses. If only it had the same pre-amp as the '77 Ray, it would be just about the perfect Ray for me ;).

The only things that I didn't really like about the Ray34 when it was new, were the non-standard (poor quality) tuners and the rectangular-edged pickup, which I couldn't rest me thumb on :(. Fortunatley, I have a lot of MusicMan spare parts lying around (from various earlier projects :smug:), so everything that I needed for a bit of an upgrade.

Although the original pickup actually sounded fine to me, I also had a Nordstrand MM4.2 pickup, which I was really curious to hear in this bass and so I soldered it in and reassembled the bass, fitting an Ernie Ball (b/w/b) pickguard along the way, just to keep things looking tidy ;). The tone was noticeably thicker and warmer with the Nordtrand in. The standard pickup certainly had a StingRay tone, but was a little 'harsher' sounding than the Nordstrand, I would say.

I also had a set of original MusicMan tuners, which I bought cheaply on eBay, knowing that they would come in handy for something one day :D. Although I had to re-drill the screw holes to fit them, it was worth doing, as I really wasn't happy with the look of the ones that came with the bass :hmm: - the heads were bigger and the stems longer than a standard StingRay's tuners.

The only thing that I had to buy for this upgrade was the string retainer, as the original one was chrome and didn't match the nickel-plated tuners very well :hmm:.

So, I now have a bass that is, to all intents and purposes, just as good as most US built 'Rays and probably a fair bit better than some of them. I weighs around 9.8lbs, has a nice two piece ash body, very solid hardware and playability and tone in spades - definitely a good buy :)!


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I didn't know you could get these in natural! It needs a tort guard. Cool bass, cool thread! Congrats on being so happy!

Thanks :)!

The natural ash ones seem to be slightly less common than the black or honey burst ones, even over here in Europe, but I really prefer maple-necked StingRays so there was only one choice for me ;).

It also reminds me of my old '77 'Ray, which is kind of cool :smug: (even though that bass had a rather ugly, mis-matched, 3 piece ash body :hmm:) ...

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That's fantastic! I was sitting in GC yesterday and someone had sold a pimped out Ray34 with a Tort pick guard and different knobs (it was ugly as sin and I can't figure out why anyone would chose those knobs...the PG looked great though). Any chance I could ask you to post a sound clip? I've been eying one of these for a long time and was thinking about throwing in a Nordstrand when I got it.
 
That's fantastic! I was sitting in GC yesterday and someone had sold a pimped out Ray34 with a Tort pick guard and different knobs (it was ugly as sin and I can't figure out why anyone would chose those knobs...the PG looked great though). Any chance I could ask you to post a sound clip? I've been eying one of these for a long time and was thinking about throwing in a Nordstrand when I got it.

Well, I don't have any sound clips to post, but if I get around to making any this week, I'll come back and post them here. Really though, it just sounds like ... a StingRay ;).
 
Ive also got a Ray34 (black) and it quickly became my only bass. I even sold my lakland Duck Dunn as i stopped using it.
I cant think of many negatives with this bass, at this price, but i also changed the pup for a Nordy 4.2 which i got cheap second hand. I did this to try and cure a weak G string issue. I thought the original pup sounded good but i agree, the Nordy sounds a bit fuller and smoother.
I also do find the tuners to be a bit cheap feeling but ive not had any strings go out of tune at gigs so ill stick with them.
 
Ive also got a Ray34 (black) and it quickly became my only bass. I even sold my lakland Duck Dunn as i stopped using it.
I cant think of many negatives with this bass, at this price, but i also changed the pup for a Nordy 4.2 which i got cheap second hand. I did this to try and cure a weak G string issue. I thought the original pup sounded good but i agree, the Nordy sounds a bit fuller and smoother.
I also do find the tuners to be a bit cheap feeling but ive not had any strings go out of tune at gigs so ill stick with them.

Hi Dave,

I think that the weak G string issue is inherent in nearly all StingRays, although I too found that changing the pickup and lowering the E string side to cut out the boominess was all that was needed to make it a non-issue for me (the G is still not quite as 'strong' sounding as the other strings, but has plenty of volume now).

As for the tuners, I'm sure that there's no real need at all to change them for 'operational' reasons - I only changed mine because I had an original MM set going to waste and also because I probably spend longer looking at my bass than playing it :ninja:.

I see that we have the same amp, too :). Personally, I think that the LMII is a really good companion for all modern, active basses and my Ray34 really comes across well through it. I'm not playing in a band at the moment, but I wish that I could just go somewhere and really crank up my amp (other than when my neighbours go out ;)), as the Ray34 (like any decent StingRay) has a tone that deserves be heard LOUD :D!!!

BTW, do you have any pics or sound clips which you could post, Dave :)?
 
I agree, the weak G string is to do with freq and not volume as such.
And i also find that while its not a loud as on all my other basses its ok, i just need to make sure i dont back the mids off as this seems to affect the G string.
I find my MB heads work well with all my (previous) basses, weather they were active or passive, 4 or 5 string. Never had much trouble getting the tone i want, although the cabs are quite coloured so i dont expect too much variation. They do the job though.
I cant imaging me ever replacing the MB heads although im sure there are better ones out there. Maybe if one breaks down i might get a F500.

I dont have any sound clips but do have pics.

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I'm using an SB14 (the Sterling version of the SBMM line) as my main bass now and it's brilliant. I have considered changing the pick up though because of the sloped bit between the two adjustment screws, and the G seems rather weak compared to the E when it's running in parallel.

However, I've heard that the stock humbucker on SBMM basses is actually bigger than a normal EBMM one, and that EBMM pickguards don't fit on either.

Did you run into any problems of this sort when changing pickups?
 
The only problem i had (well, two) was that the Nordy has 5 cables, the SBMM has two.
I didnt get instructions with mine as it was second hand and all the references i could find on line just said its a straight swap out. Pretty confusing.
The other was my lack of soldering skills. Ive done pups before but with my Ray34 i had to solder directly to the circuit board. Scary stuff.

So no, is the answer to the question. There si now a gap at the ends of the pup between the two screws, you can see the original in my pic and the Nordy in the OPs pic.

Im quite tempted to get a SB14. I like the idea of a narrower neck.
 
I agree, the weak G string is to do with freq and not volume as such.
And i also find that while its not a loud as on all my other basses its ok, i just need to make sure i dont back the mids off as this seems to affect the G string.
I find my MB heads work well with all my (previous) basses, weather they were active or passive, 4 or 5 string. Never had much trouble getting the tone i want, although the cabs are quite coloured so i dont expect too much variation. They do the job though.
I cant imaging me ever replacing the MB heads although im sure there are better ones out there. Maybe if one breaks down i might get a F500.

I dont have any sound clips but do have pics.

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Dave, that's easily the nicest looking black one that I've seen so far. Yours has a really sexy piece of rosewood for a fretboard, whereas the others that I've seen for sale have very pale looking wood on the fretboard, which I don't think looks very good on a black bass :hmm:.

Thanks for sharing the pics :)!

I'm using an SB14 (the Sterling version of the SBMM line) as my main bass now and it's brilliant. I have considered changing the pick up though because of the sloped bit between the two adjustment screws, and the G seems rather weak compared to the E when it's running in parallel.

However, I've heard that the stock humbucker on SBMM basses is actually bigger than a normal EBMM one, and that EBMM pickguards don't fit on either.

Did you run into any problems of this sort when changing pickups?

Yes, I think that this new pickup cover design (also seen on twin humbucker 'Rays, I believe) is a really poor one :(. Whether or not we should, is another matter (where's Todd Johnson :ninja:), but the fact is that a lot of bassists do rest their thumb on the pickup (even Jaco did that :eek:). The sloped edge on the standard Ray34 and SB14 pickups makes this nearly impossible and I can honestly say that I wouldn't have bought mine if I didn't already know that it was possible to change this pickup beforehand.

As for the pickguard, as Dave has already stated, you will be left with a bit of an ugly gap, unless you change the p/g for an EBMM StingRay one (or copy of). In Dave's case, it won't be so noticeable, as his bass is black anyway. But, as you have a Sterling Bass and not a StingRay, I can't really say for sure if the EBMM Sterling p/g will fit. Maybe someone else here knows!?


What's up w/ the mutes? That's not an SR Classic Bridge is it? If not, could you explain how you went about acquiring it?
The bass with the mutes appears to be his '77 'ray, which came stock with that style bridge. Notice also the 2-band eq and 3 bolt neck.

That's right, the bass in my second post is my old (now sold) pre-EB StingRay, which I just posted for comparison purposes. I loved the tone of that bass - it was the closest I ever came to the classic tone of my StingRay heroes (like Louis Johnson, Paul S. Denman and Jamie Stewart), but the build quality and playability was a long way behind this new Ray34, if I'm honest :hmm:. It would cost three times as much to buy now as well, and I simply don't have that kind of a bass budget any more ;).
 
Stoked for you A

You take the best pics as well.
I love the Ray tone, but I cannot get it to work for me in a 'band' setting.
 
Stoked for you A

You take the best pics as well.
I love the Ray tone, but I cannot get it to work for me in a 'band' setting.

Thanks B ;)! Good to hear from you again.

You raise a good point there, which I'd completely forgotten about - I too had problems getting my previous 'Ray (a 2006 EBMM 3 band EQ, with a graphite neck) to cut through in my band :hmm:. I ended up going with a P Bass instead, as the punchy mids could always be heard and I could at least tell what note I was playing. The StingRay's 'clattering and booming' was awesome on its own, but I sometimes couldn't hear the underlying note and got lost a lot more quickly when improvising :(.

Still, I'm not in a band now and just play at home for fun (mostly through headphones), so I can once again savour that scooped, yet shattering tone, for which the StingRay is so rightly revered :smug:.
 
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I ended up getting one of these after all in the Silverburst...I actually dig it a lot. :cool:

I found a nice gig where this works for me.
 

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