• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join freeLog in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

New to Bass :P

Welcome!
My two cents worth,
If you already play guitar, before you buy a bass try a couple short scale basses eg mustang. A bit easier to play, and short scales just sound awesome imo.
Don't worry about pedals until later - spend that money on a better bass. I think playing through effects maybe slowed down my technique because you may hear less detail in your playing. Plus, there's almost no style of music where a clean bass sound doesn't work okay.
 
Hi I'm new to this forum thing lol :laugh:
:(. I play guitar already, I have a tele, so it shouldn't be too hard right?? I'm looking to buy a (Squier) Jazz Bass maybe lol. So I was just wondering if anyone had any advice for a (soon-to-be) beginning bass player. (I don't own any physical pedals either so pedal advice would be appreciated too)
:bassist:

Yes, plenty of free advice.
STOP with the excessive use of emojis.
Going from a tele to a full scale bass may be a leap for some people.
LOL, there is nothing funny about a Squier Jazz Bass, LOL.
You don't need pedals for the sake of having pedals. (a blasphemous statement in here)
 
  • Like
Reactions: Wesley R
Squier VM or CV basses are good. So are Ibanez, Yamaha and LTD. Try to find a used MIA Peavey in your area.

For amps I would pass the "bass+amp" bundle. I would also pass a practice amp, they don't sound good enough. for the price you pay. Check the used market for an amp you can play with a drummer, or for a good powered PA cab. I have an EV ZLX-12P that I can use for practice, for rehearsal with a small mixer and for parties on the patio. Way more use than a practice bass amp.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Lowendchamp
Welcome to the Low End!

A squier jazz should do JUST fine. If you can swing it, one of the best “bang for your buck” basses are the classic vibe squiers, and if you can get it used even better. The affinity ones can be great too if the truss rod works.

Best advice I can give is to look into videos on youtube discussing how to get a good set up and a good technique for plucking and fretting, as it is surprisingly easy to hurt yourself playing bass.

that and motown

As for pedals it depends really.


I like scotts bass lessons.


This ^^^^^
 
  • Like
Reactions: peps1enjoy3r
Hi I'm new to this forum thing lol :laugh:
Recently, I have been interested in learning to play bass but I don't actually own one or know anyone who does :(. I play guitar already, I have a tele, so it shouldn't be too hard right?? I'm also doing some research on different basses and I'm looking to buy a (Squier) Jazz Bass maybe lol. So I was just wondering if anyone had any advice for a (soon-to-be) beginning bass player. (I don't own any physical pedals either so pedal advice would be appreciated too)
Thanks in advance :bassist:
Welcome to the world of playing bass (almost!) ;):D
Squier Jazz bass would be a great first bass that will last years. Squier Precision bass too. Or Sire basses are a good inexpensive choice. Ibanez has some quality affordable choices to (but definitely look into which inexpensive models are better than others. You can get a decent bass for relatively cheap these days, but sometimes you really do get what you pay for & buyer beware.)

Just because a bass is inexpensive like a Squier or Sire, doesn't mean it's a "beginner" bass you'll grow out of. Plenty of working musicians play Squiers and Sires and Ibanez.

My advice (for whatever my opinion is worth):
- Get whatever bass you enjoy playing the most. Also, liking the way it looks is important to. It's always great to walk into the room and look at your bass and think, "That's such a cool bass and now i'm gonna play it for a while!" Don't feel silly for picking the bass you like over one that has "better specs". They'll both get the job done.

- When figuring out your budget put some money on the side to have it properly set up by a professional tech or luthier. A properly set up cheap bass will play as well as a bass twice as expensive, and most basses need a setup after you buy them. And learning on a properly set up bass makes learning easier because you're not fighting the instrument. (Don't go to Guitar Center or a major chain store for a setup.)

- Start going to shows in your area and talk to bassists in the bands. Obviously don't bother them while they're setting up or tearing down, but after the show, or before when they're hanging out, when they're not busy. Tell them you're looking to learn bass. Ask them if they know any good bass techs in the area because you want to a have a proper setup done after you buy your first bass. That'll probably get you points with them, that you're on the right path. If you're lucky they'll let you play their bass a little (but don't expect it.) hehe:thumbsup:

- If you're close to any music stores, just go in and play all the basses of all the different styles. Just see what feels and sounds good in your hands. That's the most important. Same thing with the amps. Try different ones and see which sounds good to you. People love their Fender Rumble series amps. They're affordable and sound good (if you like the Fender Rumble sound.) I'm not a huge fan, but people love them, and they're probably a great starting point.

Also note: A lot of the instruments on the wall at music stores like Guitar Center haven't been properly set up. If you're lucky, they've been set up a bare minimum so they don't buzz when you play, but they're not properly-properly set up. So as a beginner i can be hard to tell if a bass plays well when they're been poorly set up. You're just trying to get a general feel for different instruments. You don't have to buy one if it doesn't feel great. And if you do buy one there, or buy one online, you're gonna get it properly set up anyway, so just do your best feeling what you like about a bass.

- Don't worry about pedals. You don't need them. In the late 1990s i sold all my pedals and played without pedals until last month. Just get your bass and your amp running, and start learning to play. Great technique goes a long way and saves a lot of money on pedals you don't need because your technique is good enough to not need it. In the beginning you're better off spending the extra money on getting your bass set up properly and an amp that sounds good to you.

- To reiterate: You don't need pedals. You don't need FX. You don't need a pre amp (your amp has one already). You don't need an EQ (your amp has one already.) You don't need a compressor (a lot of amps have them built in, and unless you're good at setting one up, it'll just squash the life out of your sound.) You don't need distortion or chorus or reverb or delay. This is liberating because, since you don't need any pedals, when you want to start adding pedals to your signal chain, just get whatever pedals you think sound cool. That's it.

At some point you might want to get into the nuanced tweaking of certain compressors and EQs and outboard preamp pedals... but until you get to that point, just get whatever you like. Get whatever sounds cool and have fun with it. (But spend the money on a proper setup and amp first.) ;)

- Don't stress too much about which bass you buy first. Between Squier Jazz and Squier Precision, or Sire models, or Ibanez models, or the other basses people have recommended, they're all gonna be plenty fine. Just get whichever you like. Every bass sounds different, but they pretty much all sound like Bass Guitar. Once you've owned it for a while and get to know it better, you can start modifying it to your liking. Changing string styles and brands is one of the easiest and cheapest ways of getting completely different tones from your bass. (Well, actually, changing technique and playing styles is free and even more fun and effective. ;)) Pickups can be replaced. Components can be replaced. Or you can do what the rest of us suckers do and just start buying more basses. :roflmao:

- There's a world of information online that you can use to learn for free. There's also a lot of bad information online, and when you're just learning, it could be tough figuring out which is good info and which is bad. If at all possible, private in-person lessons are a great resource for learning and improvement. The instructor will curate the knowledge so that you're not searching endlessly guessing what you should learn next and if it's right. And they can give you immediate feedback as you play. And you can ask questions and get immediate answers. I know not everyone has access them, but if you can swing it, private lessons are terrific. (if the teacher is good and helps you learn)
 
Last edited:
A Squier Classic vibe or 40th anniversary can make any bass player happy, no matter if it’s a precision bass or a jazz bass. Best thing is to try them before buying.

As for an amp or combo, I would recommend a combo at first making sure the woofer is at least a 12". I started with a single 7" and got satisfied only when I got my Ampeg Rocket Bass RB 112.
 
I also use fl studio to record guitar thru an audio interface sometimes

I would say delay amp purchase, since you have a decent headphone & DAW setup. Put more money into just a decent bass. Buy used. Squire CV series gets a good recommendation around here.

I think , since you have FL studio you should learn to install VST plugins for it and then try out VST bass amp simulators to see what amp sounds you like, and then seek out those kinds of amps in reallife.
 
Last edited:
Squier VM or CV basses are good. So are Ibanez, Yamaha and LTD. Try to find a used MIA Peavey in your area.

For amps I would pass the "bass+amp" bundle. I would also pass a practice amp, they don't sound good enough. for the price you pay. Check the used market for an amp you can play with a drummer, or for a good powered PA cab. I have an EV ZLX-12P that I can use for practice, for rehearsal with a small mixer and for parties on the patio. Way more use than a practice bass amp.
Yes on LTD's don't hear much talk about them. Made in the same factory where Lakland Skylines are made.
Also, Sterling Ray4 or 34 if you like a stingray sound. Just check them out, straight neck, etc. Amp? I have a Rumble 100 that I use for practice and my small gigs. Works perfect. Larger stuff for larger gigs.
 
:dead: Bass player inside jokes LMAOO
a few more...
"fire the drummer" - the solution to any band personnel issue (even if unrelated to drummer)
"weight?" - a serious question when asked about a for-sale bass, a joke when used randomly.
"carrots" - not a joke per say, but a placeholder for "no comment" or "i don't see my answer represented here" in talkbass polls

And just wait until you hear about the Mothman. And Mothgirl. :D

There are many more, just can't think of them now...

Anyway, welcome to the loony bin :)
 
Maybe I missed it but do you have a budget? Also, bass is truly a different animal than guitar, despite outward appearances, rather like badgers and wolverines! If you have the ability, test drive some stuff at your local stores. New, used, whatever. When you find one (bass or amp) that makes you smile spontaneously when you play it, get it if you can afford it. That's all I've got for you. Welcome to TalkBass! This is a great community!

BBB
 
Lotta great advice in here already, but I'll throw in some bullet points too...

- Bass has less in common with guitar than people may think. Treat it like it like a totally different animal :beaver:
- Squier Jazz is a solid option (I'd recommend Classic Vibe over Affinity). Ibanez, Sire, Yamaha...lots of alternatives out there too. :thumbsup:
- Whatever bass you buy, try to play it before throwing down the money. :bassist:
- If you're not already into Motown, Funk, or Reggae....start. :cool:
- Learn as much as you can about bass amps on here too :)

- Keep using emojis :D
 
Welcome to the Low End!

A squier jazz should do JUST fine. If you can swing it, one of the best “bang for your buck” basses are the classic vibe squiers, and if you can get it used even better. The affinity ones can be great too if the truss rod works.

Best advice I can give is to look into videos on youtube discussing how to get a good set up and a good technique for plucking and fretting, as it is surprisingly easy to hurt yourself playing bass.

that and motown

As for pedals it depends really.


I like scotts bass lessons.


Agreed, Squires are hit-or-miss but when they hit, its a steal.

Try the bass in the shop. Play chromatically up from the open string to the 20th fret to check for fret buzz. And take the bass to a luthier to set it up for action etc.

In terms of technique, relaxation is key, lots of issues others and I have/had relates to tensing the forearm/wrist/shoulder when playing.

Do not overlook the value of muting technique. It's a big-a** deal on bass bc two ringing strings in this register is gurgled garbage.
 
Welcome to the world of playing bass (almost!) ;):D
Squier Jazz bass would be a great first bass that will last years. Squier Precision bass too. Or Sire basses are a good inexpensive choice. Ibanez has some quality affordable choices to (but definitely look into which inexpensive models are better than others. You can get a decent bass for relatively cheap these days, but sometimes you really do get what you pay for & buyer beware.)

Just because a bass is inexpensive like a Squier or Sire, doesn't mean it's a "beginner" bass you'll grow out of. Plenty of working musicians play Squiers and Sires and Ibanez.

My advice (for whatever my opinion is worth):
- Get whatever bass you enjoy playing the most. Also, liking the way it looks is important to. It's always great to walk into the room and look at your bass and think, "That's such a cool bass and now i'm gonna play it for a while!" Don't feel silly for picking the bass you like over one that has "better specs". They'll both get the job done.

- When figuring out your budget put some money on the side to have it properly set up by a professional tech or luthier. A properly set up cheap bass will play as well as a bass twice as expensive, and most basses need a setup after you buy them. And learning on a properly set up bass makes learning easier because you're not fighting the instrument. (Don't go to Guitar Center or a major chain store for a setup.)

- Start going to shows in your area and talk to bassists in the bands. Obviously don't bother them while they're setting up or tearing down, but after the show, or before when they're hanging out, when they're not busy. Tell them you're looking to learn bass. Ask them if they know any good bass techs in the area because you want to a have a proper setup done after you buy your first bass. That'll probably get you points with them, that you're on the right path. If you're lucky they'll let you play their bass a little (but don't expect it.) hehe:thumbsup:

- If you're close to any music stores, just go in and play all the basses of all the different styles. Just see what feels and sounds good in your hands. That's the most important. Same thing with the amps. Try different ones and see which sounds good to you. People love their Fender Rumble series amps. They're affordable and sound good (if you like the Fender Rumble sound.) I'm not a huge fan, but people love them, and they're probably a great starting point.

Also note: A lot of the instruments on the wall at music stores like Guitar Center haven't been properly set up. If you're lucky, they've been set up a bare minimum so they don't buzz when you play, but they're not properly-properly set up. So as a beginner i can be hard to tell if a bass plays well when they're been poorly set up. You're just trying to get a general feel for different instruments. You don't have to buy one if it doesn't feel great. And if you do buy one there, or buy one online, you're gonna get it properly set up anyway, so just do your best feeling what you like about a bass.

- Don't worry about pedals. You don't need them. In the late 1990s i sold all my pedals and played without pedals until last month. Just get your bass and your amp running, and start learning to play. Great technique goes a long way and saves a lot of money on pedals you don't need because your technique is good enough to not need it. In the beginning you're better off spending the extra money on getting your bass set up properly and an amp that sounds good to you.

- To reiterate: You don't need pedals. You don't need FX. You don't need a pre amp (your amp has one already). You don't need an EQ (your amp has one already.) You don't need a compressor (a lot of amps have them built in, and unless you're good at setting one up, it'll just squash the life out of your sound.) You don't need distortion or chorus or reverb or delay. This is liberating because, since you don't need any pedals, when you want to start adding pedals to your signal chain, just get whatever pedals you think sound cool. That's it.

At some point you might want to get into the nuanced tweaking of certain compressors and EQs and outboard preamp pedals... but until you get to that point, just get whatever you like. Get whatever sounds cool and have fun with it. (But spend the money on a proper setup and amp first.) ;)

- Don't stress too much about which bass you buy first. Between Squier Jazz and Squier Precision, or Sire models, or Ibanez models, or the other basses people have recommended, they're all gonna be plenty fine. Just get whichever you like. Every bass sounds different, but they pretty much all sound like Bass Guitar. Once you've owned it for a while and get to know it better, you can start modifying it to your liking. Changing string styles and brands is one of the easiest and cheapest ways of getting completely different tones from your bass. (Well, actually, changing technique and playing styles is free and even more fun and effective. ;)) Pickups can be replaced. Components can be replaced. Or you can do what the rest of us suckers do and just start buying more basses. :roflmao:

- There's a world of information online that you can use to learn for free. There's also a lot of bad information online, and when you're just learning, it could be tough figuring out which is good info and which is bad. If at all possible, private in-person lessons are a great resource for learning and improvement. The instructor will curate the knowledge so that you're not searching endlessly guessing what you should learn next and if it's right. And they can give you immediate feedback as you play. And you can ask questions and get immediate answers. I know not everyone has access them, but if you can swing it, private lessons are terrific. (if the teacher is good and helps you learn)

Actually scrap the squire, Sires have a phenomenal reputation atm.
 
Squier or Ibanez, new or second hand will be fine.
Amp n Cab?
New, second hand, lightweight, heavy, speaker configuration and sizes, there's enough opinions out there that'll have your head spinning quicker than Regan McNeil's... Whatever you choose, just be content with the sound quality in its simplest, basic form ie, bass > amp > cab. Pedals can come (and go) later.

I'm still using a single 15 and an old school amp for 98% of the gigs I play. Total cost under $900 Aus/$578 USA.
I don't really know too much about amps and cabinets LOL I just use my dad's cheap amp but I get what you're saying, thanks! :thumbsup:
 
  • Like
Reactions: LiptonJigglers