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Did they send me mislabelled short scale strings?

Apr 13, 2006
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I just got a set of D'addario XL tapewounds to try on a frettless jazz bass. They sound great, but the blue silk wraps extend past the nut, as much as an inch onto the fretboard. This doesn't look right.

The package says medium scale, but I'm wondering if these are really short scale. Thoughts?

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The package says medium scale, but I'm wondering if these are really short scale. Thoughts?
Measure their actual length from where the ball end is seated to the start of the silk at the tuner end. If they're close to 34", they're medium scale, if they're close to 32", they're short scale.

Are they strung thru-body by any chance?
 
Is that fretless Jazz a medium scale bass (32") or a standard 34" scale? If it's the standard scale, it needs "long scale" strings.
It's 34" scale.

Descriptoin on juststrings.com: "ETB92M is the medium scale version of the popular ETB92 black nylon tapewound bass set. ETB92M offers the ideal combination warm, deep tones with a smooth feel. Fits medium scale basses with a string scale length of up to 34 inches"
 
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It's 34" scale.

Descriptoin on juststrings.com: "ETB92M is the medium scale version of the popular ETB92 black nylon tapewound bass set. ETB92M offers the ideal combination warm, deep tones with a smooth feel. Fits medium scale basses with a string scale length of up to 34 inches"
34" scale needs "long scale" strings, not "medium scale". No wonder they're way too short! This is not a case of the strings being mispackaged; it's a case of you getting a wrong set for the bass.
 
I just got a set of D'addario XL tapewounds to try on a frettless jazz bass. They sound great, but the blue silk wraps extend past the nut, as much as an inch onto the fretboard. This doesn't look right.

The package says medium scale, but I'm wondering if these are really short scale. Thoughts?

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It says medium scale on the package (32”)
 
It's 34" scale.

Fits medium scale basses with a string scale length of up to 34 inches
That description by D'Addario is very misleading as they're confusing "winding length" with "scale length". "Medium scale" strings by D'Addario has a winding length (ball end to taper/silk) of 34", which is not long enough for 34" scale length.
 
I just got a set of D'addario XL tapewounds to try on a frettless jazz bass. They sound great, but the blue silk wraps extend past the nut, as much as an inch onto the fretboard. This doesn't look right.

The package says medium scale, but I'm wondering if these are really short scale. Thoughts?

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As explained above, the standard (Fender Precision, Jazz, and thousands other basses of various make and model) scale for bass guitar (34" from bridge to nut)* is actually called "long scale". "Medium scale" does exist but, at 32", it's shorter than standard, and a lot less common: in fact, even less common than "short scale", which is usually 30".
(Of course, because strings don't anchor directly at the bridge saddle but further back even on toploading bridges, strings for each scale come with at least 2 extra inches of full-gauge length, i.e. at least 36" ball-to-taper for long scale; 34" for medium, like the ETB92M you unfortunately bought; 32" for short.)

The reasons for the current nomenclature are purely historical. Until the late '60s, most models available were ~30" scale, but Fender's 34" basses outsold the competition by far: so neither scale could be considered the undisputed standard, and a binary opposition (short- and long-scale) made sense. Also of note, no bass guitars longer than 34" existed (the Gibson Thunderbird was only a smidgen longer at 34.5"), so 34" couldn't be called "medium".
Come the mid-Seventies, most of the competition had begun offering all or most of their models in Fender scale, finally making 34" the standard.
Only around that time, or a little later, the first 32" scale basses came out of Japan (they were preceded by Burns of London's 31.5" models from the Sixties) and were called medium-scale. So the names of this revised, three-way opposition (~30=short : ~32=medium : ~34=long) stuck.

Outside the above:
- 35"- and 36" scale appeared some time later still (never becoming widespread except with 5- and 6-string basses), so they got allotted the goofy "extra-long" or "super-long" description;
- conversely, significantly-shorter-than-30" have existed since the late Fifties, but have never been very common.
(most of them tend to be either
· 28.6", like the Ibanex MiKro;
· 23" to 26", or guitar-scale;
· or, if equipped with non-steel-core strings, ca21", or uke-bass scale.)
 
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I just got a set of D'addario XL tapewounds to try on a frettless jazz bass. They sound great, but the blue silk wraps extend past the nut, as much as an inch onto the fretboard. This doesn't look right.

The package says medium scale, but I'm wondering if these are really short scale. Thoughts?

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Other than the scale issue, how do the tapes sound on your Jazz?
 
It's 34" scale.

Descriptoin on juststrings.com: "ETB92M is the medium scale version of the popular ETB92 black nylon tapewound bass set. ETB92M offers the ideal combination warm, deep tones with a smooth feel. Fits medium scale basses with a string scale length of up to 34 inches"
34" scale basses need either Full Scale or Long Scale strings. (two names that both mean 34" scale).
Medium scale is 32".
Short scale is 30".
Extra-long is 35" or 36" depending.

Then there are the one-off or odd sizes like 33" or a Rick's 33 1/4" or the Gibson Ripper 34 1/2" scale, which either need the size-up or specialty strings for those basses.

Your bass needs Full/Long Scale strings. ;):thumbsup:
No idea why their description says "Upd to 34 inches" because medium scale strings almost universally are for 32" scale basses. Maybe they mean 34" saddle to tuning peg and something got screwed up in the text? Or they had a copy-paste error when writing the descriptions for the different string scales? 🤷‍♂️
 
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Let us all repeat the mantra:
1) measure from the string anchor to the tuner side of the nut;
2) measure from the string anchor to the middle of the tuner post for the lowest string;
3) purchase a set of strings where the winding length or speaking length of the string is between these two numbers.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the bass is a long scale bass, and these measurements will be roughly 35" and 37" respectively. So regular long scale strings are what this bass needs. The OP purchased the wrong set of strings. He can sell them on the forum.