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1954 EB-1 tuner suggestions

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by neili360, Nov 21, 2018.


  1. neili360

    neili360

    May 31, 2010
    Eugene, Oregon
    I own a 1954 EB-1. Some back history on this bass... I purchased it used about 1974. Mods are: it has been refinished (can barely see the s/n); head stock was repaired, 40 years and holding; the original pickup was rewound but did not last so I replaced with a DiMarzio EB-1; no pick guard and it has no extending end pin. Also before my purchase someone wanted it to be more like Jack Bruce's EB-1 so they put Schaller tuners on it (and cut slits in the case to accommodate!!) and different knobs. It still plays and sounds good.

    My question is, with all these mods, should I, for aesthetic reasons, bother to put a set of the reissued EB-1 Kluson tuners on it? About a hundred bucks gets a set, and it would look more like it was designed. Not sure if it would affect the sound. Photo as it is today.

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  2. hopsbb

    hopsbb

    Nov 8, 2014
    I'd love to have an Eb1. I think it looks fine as is now.
     
  3. JimmyM

    JimmyM

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    Did holes have to be drilled or filled to put in the Schallers?
     
  4. neili360

    neili360

    May 31, 2010
    Eugene, Oregon
    They were not filled. Thinking Schaller using one, the other exposed. This also shows my neck repair.
     

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  5. godofthunder59

    godofthunder59 God of Thunder and Rock and Roll Supporting Member

    Feb 19, 2006
    Rochester NY USA
    Endorsing Cataldo Basses, Whirlwind products, Thunderbucker pickups
    I would definitely put original banjo tuners back on it.
     
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  6. I'm with Scott; banjos on those old Gibson headstocks add a whole layer of nuance to those instruments. I just would want to be sure that the string spindles are for bass diameter and not guitar or banjo.
     
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  7. iammr2

    iammr2

    Jun 10, 2002
    Tejas
    Awesome bass. I've wanted one of those for a long time.
     
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  8. jdthebassman

    jdthebassman

    Jul 11, 2010
    I have a 58 eb 2 that has those banjo tuners where would you find a replacement set I have been looking for years. I would swap out that bridge and use a hipshot 2 point it will transform the sound and intonation
     
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  9. neili360

    neili360

    May 31, 2010
    Eugene, Oregon
    Well, thanks for all of the feedback. I bought a set. JD, the Kluson line of tuners are reissued to original spec and sold by WD Music. They have a 25% off sale right now so $99 + free shipping. Got the nickel plated version. They state these are exact replacement for the original EB-1.
     
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  10. jdthebassman

    jdthebassman

    Jul 11, 2010
    thanks just ordered a set for my EB-2
     
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  11. Gilmourisgod

    Gilmourisgod

    Jun 23, 2014
    Cape Cod MA
    That will look sweet with original tuners, nice “upgrade”, though it won’t make a lick of difference tone-wise. I’ll bet that thumps like a champ.
     
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  12. HaphAsSard

    HaphAsSard

    Dec 1, 2013
    Italia
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  13. jdthebassman

    jdthebassman

    Jul 11, 2010
    just an FYI just installed mine on my 58-EB2 you will have to drill out the hole to accommodate the string, I used a 1/8 size bit.
     
  14. jdthebassman

    jdthebassman

    Jul 11, 2010
    here is an update, installed the tuners and they will not tune up to pitch they slip, put the originals back on they worked fine. I am sending them back and I suggested that they get hipshot to make them. you can guess where they were made, not in the USA like the originals.
     
  15. neili360

    neili360

    May 31, 2010
    Eugene, Oregon
    Oh no. That's a real bummer. I was going to install today. Hoping they work.
     
  16. jdthebassman

    jdthebassman

    Jul 11, 2010
    the problem is that they cant handle the string tension on the E&A strings. and on the others you can barely get them in pitch. I have installed ghs short scale strings 95-40. once I put the original tuners on no problem. what gauge are you using? let me know how it comes out.
     
  17. neili360

    neili360

    May 31, 2010
    Eugene, Oregon
    The tuners came out good. The holes were apparently retrofitted for the Schallers so I ended up needing to re-use those 1/2" bushings instead of the Kluson which are maybe 1/4". When the Schallers were added one screw hole was filled and new one drilled, so I need to reverse that to get it properly seated.
     

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  18. That thing is in REALLY nice shape, looks like it never left the bedroom. And it looks way better with the RI tuners, the others didn't look right. Can you intonate it with that bridge? I have a 65 EB-3 with the same bridge and it played flat, had to buy a replacement bridge which worked out fine.
     
  19. neili360

    neili360

    May 31, 2010
    Eugene, Oregon
    Not sure why it did not work JD, sorry man. My strings are D-Addario tapewounds, 50-105, used similar scale Chromes before. Maybe something with the EB-2 neck/scale design? since these were made specifically for EB-1 and banjos. I don't know anything about that gear ratio biz but it all seems stable on mine. I left for six hours after I finished it up and still in tune when I returned. Thanks for the heads up on the holes tho, I was bracing myself. The A was tight but all but the E fit with no mod, and for the E I just removed enough silk to slide the core string through and all was good.
     
  20. neili360

    neili360

    May 31, 2010
    Eugene, Oregon
    Even the refinish is starting to show after 40 years but it still does look pretty good. That is the idea with the bridge and it is okay. The EB thud sort of has a tonal colour of its own so it's usually very playable, tho I mostly just play it at home anymore.
     
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