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(2 * 4x10) vs (4x10 + 1x15)

GerManson

GerManson

Dec 22, 2007
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Hermosillo, Mexico.
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#1
I just got this rig, and i want to make it bigger :hiding:

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is a Gallien Krueger Backline 600 Head (300watts)
and a Gallien Krueger 4x10GLX Cabinet

my question is,. should i be getting another 4x10? or a 1x15?
what is the man difference in sound? transportation? music type?
anyone? i really have no clue on this.

my main sound is a Rickenbacker 4001 and a VT-Bass. i use some distortion (BOSS ODB-3)

my only accessible store is Tucson Guitar Center.

some links might help

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============== UPDATE ====================

i am getting really frustrated with this, to the point i hate my rig..

i am planning to go back to ampeg. but its sure a lot of money to spend.
what do you guys would recommend me?

should i just get an ampeg head? which one?
should i sell everything and start over?
should i just get another cab?
should i keep playing around with my EQ and Settings?
 
#6
zachoff said:
In this case the 115 is 25lbs lighter than the 410...

Really though, a 300W 4x10 rig will be all you need in almost all situations. I'd upgrade your head before thinking about adding another cabinet... Something that pushes 300W at 8 ohms.
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this head pushes 300W at 4 ohms.
the 4x10 i currently have is 8 ohms, if I add another 4x10 they will be 4 ohms in total.

the head will push the 300W, and the cabs can handle 400w each, so there is no problem and i got full potential of my head.

is that the way this thing works right? :help:
 
#7
Go with the 1x15. People are going to say not to and give you a bunch of scientific data to support not mixing cabs, but I personally love the sound of a 4x10 and 1x15. And I rock mine with the 15 on top!
 
#8
GerManson said:
this head pushes 300W at 4 ohms.
the 4x10 i currently have is 8 ohms, if I add another 4x10 they will be 4 ohms in total.

the head will push the 300W, and the cabs can handle 400w each, so there is no problem and i got full potential of my head.

is that the way this thing works right? :help:
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Yup that's the way it works, but if you upgrade the head to something that pushes 300W+ at 8 ohms & keep your 410, you'll be fine in just about every situation and not have to schlep around two cabs.

I just think it's a PITA to have two cabs... Especially when they're ~90lbs.
 
#10
Also, a more sensitive cabinet would help as well. A high end 4x10 will often be as loud as two low end 4x10s throughout the range for electric bass.

Go to GC and look for a 4 ohm quality 4x10, and see how the Backline 600 works with it. I think you'd be pretty shocked :) That head is quite loud @ 4 ohms with a good 4x10.
 
#13
zachoff said:
I usually recommend not pairing a 1x15 with a 4x10 because there's usually quite a disparity in power handling, but in this case the 115 is 300W and the 410 is 400W so I'd probably try em both and see what you think.
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Thermal power ratings are meaningless. What matters is the total displacement (not cone area) and sensitivity/frequency response. Unfortunately no manufacturer makes that information available. But with very few exceptions 1x15s have less displacement and sensitivity than 4x10s, so it's not a good match up.
 
#15
zachoff said:
I usually recommend not pairing a 1x15 with a 4x10 because there's usually quite a disparity in power handling, but in this case the 115 is 300W and the 410 is 400W so I'd probably try em both and see what you think.
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this is something I have been thinking about for about3 or 4 years now.

If my 4x10 is wanting 800 watts my 1x15 is wanting 200 watts. Do I send too much power to the 15 or send less to the 4x10? Well all I know is I run a 2x10 and a 1x15 my other rig has a 4x10 only.
 
#16
rpsands said:
Also, a more sensitive cabinet would help as well. A high end 4x10 will often be as loud as two low end 4x10s throughout the range for electric bass.

Go to GC and look for a 4 ohm quality 4x10, and see how the Backline 600 works with it. I think you'd be pretty shocked :) That head is quite loud @ 4 ohms with a good 4x10.
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My GK neo 4x10 is louder and deeper with 300 watts vs my SWR workingman's 2x10t and matching 1x15 with 300 watts going to each.
 
#17
I'd add a 410 or a more powerful head. You probably won't need 8x10 for most gigs because you'll have PA support if they are that large. Or sell it and get a 6x10 to bridge the gap. You'll still want a bit more juice so look into heads. :)

Best of luck.
 
#18
GerManson said:
I just got this rig, and i want to make it bigger :hiding:

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is a Gallien Krueger Backline 600 Head (300watts)
and a Gallien Krueger 4x10GLX Cabinet

my question is,. should i be getting another 4x10? or a 1x15?
what is the man difference in sound? transportation? music type?
anyone? i really have no clue on this.

my main sound is a Rickenbacker 4001 and a VT-Bass. i use some distortion (BOSS ODB-3)

my only accessible store is Tucson Guitar Center.

some links might help

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the ampeg guys will probably tell you there is a/are reason(s) why the fridges have 8x10's and not 4x10's +1x15
 
#19
MikeGee said:
this is something I have been thinking about for about3 or 4 years now.

If my 4x10 is wanting 800 watts my 1x15 is wanting 200 watts. Do I send too much power to the 15 or send less to the 4x10? Well all I know is I run a 2x10 and a 1x15 my other rig has a 4x10 only.
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If they're both 8 ohm cabinets, they'll both be getting half the wattage your head is pushing. So, if your head is pushing 400W at 4 ohms then each cab will be getting 200W.

Also, cabs don't "want" watts... They get watts. The ratings are how many watts they can handle before being damaged.
 

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