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410 cabinet for metal

jsingles

jsingles

Aug 30, 2007
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Lowell/Amesbury Massachusetts
#1
so im buying a new 410 for a metal band I have just joined.

I plan on running it with a GK 1001rb-ii. My main two considerations are the GK 410 neo and the Avatar b410 neo.

I have heard that the GK neo cabs have a smoother sound, which leads me to believe they might not be the best option for cutting through in a metal band.. I have also heard that they are quieter than GK's other cabs (RBH, RBX) I would enjoy the benefits of the biamping the GK head could provide for these cabinets, but I am not sure they are the best choice for the genre.

any recommendations? I Need a cab that is going to be loud and cutting! My budget being limited to around 700 dollar price range as a maximum. if anyone has experience with the GK neo cabs AND the avatar 410, a comparison would be appreciated!
 
#2
I've been doing a lot of reserach on 4x10 cabs in the past couple of weeks as I was planning on purchasing one. I've heard from a lot of TBers that the 1001RBII matches really well with the Ampeg 4x10HLF. Have you considered that one? These cabs also seem to work real well with SS heads.
 
#6
jsingles said:
why do i feel like mesa is out of my price range.... lol

of course i have no idea how to go about purchasing a mesa.. they tend to be tricky about it, so I also have no idea what their products cost.
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I would search used here on TB or craigslist or ebay.
I got my Mesa RR810 used for $600 off a dude on TB.
I've seen a lot of Ampeg 810 cabs used on craigslist from 500-1000.
If you're in a metal band, you will never regret having the full 810.
 
#7
'Cutting through' in a metal band, which implies pretty thick but scooped out, high gain guitar(s). You end up relying more on your eq than the gear itself in my experience.

I figure you have two basic options, run a pretty scooped both pickups sound yourself, with a healthy accent of high end and either a pick or a straight down type of attack closer to the neck, so you get the attack to cut. Or there's always the option of running a bridge pickup heavy midrangy tight type of tone which will cut through easily. Playing closer to the bridge.

Technique matters more than the gear to me in these situations. You'll be fine with what you're choosing.
 
#10
I have the gk neo 410 and i think it would be pretty good for metal. the people i play with like to jam metal, rock and some funky rock and it cuts through just fine.

Ive used it tuned down to c and it handles it pretty well. i run mine with a gk 1001rbII and a euro spector, with a sansamp infront for some grit when appropriate. ive never played a avatar 410 but i have an avatar 112 and i love the quality and sound. I wish i would have went with a couple of avatar 212s as i think that would have paired up well with the gk to be a phenominal rig. that will be my next rig, or a gk 412 mmmmmmm........
 
#12
Just a slightly different suggestion from me - have a look at the Trace Elliot 1048H. I run a Mesa 400+ through one, and it has no problems at all cutting through a very thick metal guitar tone. Really tight clear sound.

Also, as others have said, you need to emphasise the mids on your eq. What we call the 'anti-scoop' in my band - it's almost a case of letting the guitar and kick drum handle the bass rumble, and you aim for the frequencies where the guitarist scoops his mids out. You'll be heard fine then :D

Also, I saw a metal band the other day and the bassist was playing through a GWR rig, and he sounded REALLY good.
 

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