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4x12 THUMP vs 8x10 THUMP

I haven't tried the Aguilar GS412 cab but I have owned the Ampeg 810e and the Ampeg 610hlf. Both cabs seem to be low end deficient, it's there, but not as much as I prefer with my 5 string bass. Most people would say there is plenty of low end coming from both of these cabs.

People on stage playing in a rock band generally use an Ampeg 810e because of the familiarity of tone, it's easy to hear yourself on stage, endorser of some sort, or the cabinet setup was provided by the venue. Let's all remember that what you see on stage is not always what you hear out through the PA. Direct boxes, backstage miked bass rigs with the player's preferred brands of gear, there's almost too much to list here.... And if you are going through the PA, the 810e will be nothing more than a glorified stage monitor and/or will be miked for your tone.

The 610hlf and 810e are decent cabs, both have that massive rock tone that helps in the band situation. As far as THUMP, it's a little too subjective. I call a thumping bass tone as a collection of frequencies starting in the 40hz going up to 300hz, thick and heavy from 100-300 and booming 40hz-90hz. You need to try them out to see if they THUMP for you the way you want them too.
All three of these cabs are loud and great for the band situation. From my use of Aguilar equipment, I think you will find a more versatile tone base to work with. From my use with Ampeg gear, it's Ampeg tone no matter what bass you throw through the rig. Ampeg's gear has a real rockin' tone and if you like that tone - Ampeg is the way to go. If you want more versatility, go for the Aguilar.
 
You are arguing for no reason. How about posting some reasons that you like your Ampeg rig? I'm sure the guy who started this thread would appreciate it.

I play through Ampeg because their gear is reasonably priced (unlike Aguilar) and the tone for the money is unbeatable. Also, like I've said in many threads - good luck finding anything used by these "boutique" brands.

I've haven't gotten anything put positive comments about my tone of Ampeg and *gasp* Fender.
 
Oh Boy, Your right! The average buyer is not as bright as you and me to tell the difference in good tone and will go with whatever some "buffoon" GC tells them to buy. BUT you and I are better than that..right? Oh and I dont think if people "read up on gear several hours a day like TB members" makes you a better judge of tone.

Oh boy, I don't think I'd make that argument. We're talking about cabinets, NOT vintage Ampeg SVT amps. And not to mention Ampegs aren't even made in America anymore (sorry but I had to throw that in there). Tone is so subjective it's ridiculous and when all a cabinet does is reproduce what your bass and amp are feeding it, who cares? An Aguilar DB412 will give you more bass, the same amount of punch, and nearly the same amount of volume, at almost half the weight! Not to mention the resale value on an Aguilar is about 80% whereas an Ampeg is about 60%.

And to totally debunk your argument that EVERYONE is using Ampegs - everyone is quickly moving AWAY from Ampegs! Why? Who knows...maybe it's because they're foreign owned and operated now or people actually like being different or maybe it's just because they found out that they're not limited to JUST a specific brand? Who cares? Tone is subjective - for my money, I would put it on Aguilar any day of the week just for the fact that I can get the same growl and punch and tone if I wanted to, but I'm going to stand out from the crowd by having a little extra something in the bottom end that the Ampegs can't physically deliver.

Are Ampegs good cabinets? Yes. Are they the best? No.
 
Coming from someone whom has played and owned both. I'd say both are great sounding. They have "different" sounds, none in my opinion which are "better" than the other, just different. I like the sound of both cabs. I currently own a GS412, but there is something about the classic SVT 810 that still sounds just wonderful in the most familiar of ways. There was a period of time where all I wanted was to not play an Ampeg like "everyone else", but there is something to be said about the nice familiar and recognizable sound of the Ampeg SVT810. Granted, the sound of the bass and the amp all play a significant role in the sound achieved. But as a person who has had their share of Boutique gear, including the Aguilar GS412, I'd say that there isn't anything wrong with owning a Fridge. I'm thinking about picking one up too (again). Just to get that "familiar" sound that's so recognizable from top 40 records to festival backlines.

I agree 100% with Poon.
There really is no better or worse.
Everyone has the right to choose what sounds "best" to their ears (and pockets).

If I had not discovered TB I would probably be playing Ampeg, GK, SWR or other big name brands. All of them are very good pieces of gear, but after discovering Aguilar I wont go back. They are more expensive but I think they offer far more quality components, better sound (to me) and far more important, for excellent customer service.

I'd recommend to try them both and hear which one speaks to you more.
 
I use two Aguilar GS112 cabs for pretty much everything I do (I'm a full time gigging pro) and they take care of everything I need.

Whilst these aren't the cabs you asked about I mention them because portability was a major factor in picking a new set-up. Getting two 1x12 cabs up a flight of stairs is possible on your own. Not so with a 8x10/4x12. Sure you'll have band mates at the gig to help you, but they're not there when you get back to your apartment.

Also, these cabs (or any small cabs -not being brand specific) are a lot safer to pack around my Double Bass in my car, rather than cramming a 4x10 and the upright in together. (Hey, I'm European, of course I have small car ;) )

Tone being one desirable quantity, portability and practicality are also up there too. My SWR Golaith hasn't left the house since my Aguilar's arrived.
 
Relative portability should play a role in your decision. The 412 is bulky and heavy, but the 810 is bulky, heavy AND tall. No use in buying a cabinet that you cannot fit in your car :)

But both are great cabs: try them with your head and your bass and see wich one you like best. And try them at stage volume (you might have to take an appointment with the music store or give them a shout before you do): too many people try cabs at wimpy volume and are unsatisfied with its stage sound later on (or get REALLY satisfied).
 
You are arguing for no reason. How about posting some reasons that you like your Ampeg rig? I'm sure the guy who started this thread would appreciate it.


Funny how Warder shut up after you called him out. Nice!

O.P. The Ampeg 610 and 810 cabs sound NOTHING like one another. The Fridge is a sealed cab, the 610 is a ported cab. Far different tonal characteristics. Hit a GC and give them a test run.

I have a 212 cabinet, that has pretty much converted me from 10" drivers. I love the sound of 12" drivers, such a naturally deep but fast and tight sound. If you can snag a 412 cab, DO IT! If you're close enough, I'd love to come hear a gig and see what 4 drivers in one box can sound like! I know my 212 is awesome, so it must be superduper awesome!
 
Oh it's definitely possible! I hauled around an old LabSeries 2x15 (130 lbs) by myself for 2 years and it only had 3 good wheels on the bottom. On top of that, I was driving a '92 Camaro at the time. Just gotta be creative. :D

Fair play! I just wouldn't have that strength on a nightly basis. When I gigged my SWR Goliath I used to roll it up a flight of stairs to get it in the apartment. Sure my neighbours loved me.
 
O.P. The Ampeg 610 and 810 cabs sound NOTHING like one another. The Fridge is a sealed cab, the 610 is a ported cab. Far different tonal characteristics.

Very strong point that seems missed in the "this co vs that co" arguing. Also of note... the 610hlf and the Aggie's both have tweeters, the sealed 810e does not. Some folks (myself included) don't like the sound of most tweeters, so pay attention to that when trying them out. And as always, buy what sounds best to you.
 
to the OP. i currently use ampeg cabs. i have tried aggie brands. great cabs. honestly i think they are both amazing. i use ampeg because i like thier older school low mids growl and bite vs. slapish crips snap and bright aggie. but this can all be toned down by you head of choice. ampeg is darker middier and throatier. i like it more. if you can, i suggest try them all, because whats works for some might not be what you want at all bud.. just use YOUR ears and find out.. bad thing about ampeg... torlex is easily ripped. but if you care about looks vs sound, you might be in the wrong busniess all together... good luck!! :)