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50's Precision, Fender or Squier

just throwing my hat in the ring here about the Ed Friedland video:

the 50's and 60's CV Precisions were comparable to their Fender counterparts. just goes to show how far overseas manufacturing has come. i also have my own theories about where Fender is going with the Squier brand (more on that below).

however, i could hear a subtle, but important difference between the CV Jazz and the Fender. if i had to do a double blind test, i'd definitely pick the Fender. not that the Squier was bad. but that's where electronics, body wood, handmade construction come into play.

yeah, so with the Squier CV models, i'm pretty sure Fender is using them to, if not phase out, then to take over from where the MIM Standard series stood in the last 15-20 years. you've got these amazing instruments coming out of China/Indonesia at the moment, right off an assembly line. they play pretty darn good, and really blur the line between entry-level and experienced player instruments. i think Fender will beef up their American lines, and have them be "real" Fenders. you can buy a Squier that plays amazing, but you're not getting a "Fender." that doesn't bother a lot of players, which is fine. but if you want a "real Fender," you pay accordingly, and the Squier CV's and VM's can fill the gap left by the hit-and-miss MIM's of the 90's and 00's.

just my theory.
 
I'm surprised nobody's yet mentioned the arm contour factor. The '51 doesn't have one (authentically) and the CV does. When I bought a '51 I liked it overall but just couldn't get past how it felt under my forearm and ended up selling it for that reason. Now I'm considering picking up a CV....actually I'm considering picking up a Douglas version as well just for the black body and putting all CV parts on it!

The Douglas is not a bad alternative. Here's mine with my Fender 51 reissue:

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mastermold--- how does the brice compare to the 51 RI??



About the cv, I am guessing the 50s cv is a tamer version of the 51 ri, more "user friendly" (body contours, narrower neck). Not historically corect, but looks and plays the part. Id take the squier.
 
Hi all

A work colleague told me today she thought she saw a CV 50's in the guitar shop in the town where I work. So, I went went along and there it was. I had a go and was very impressed. Good sound and feel. Would like to try a 51 reissue but I can't see it being much better to be honest, I may be wrong though.

I think I may be buying it very soon, once the guy who has bought my 70's reissue Jazz on ebay gets around to paying me.
 
mastermold--- how does the brice compare to the 51 RI??

Sorry I didn't notice this sooner. The Douglas (I assume that's what you meant, not Brice?) is okay. Not bad, not great, but sounds fine and plays well enough. The body is a little smaller than the Fender and the headstock is ... well ...

But if you want a single coil P-bass on the cheap, this is as cheap as I've seen and it is playable.


About the cv, I am guessing the 50s cv is a tamer version of the 51 ri, more "user friendly" (body contours, narrower neck). Not historically corect, but looks and plays the part. Id take the squier.

Ed Friedland did a nice youtube review. My experience with the Squier CVs is the are very nice.
 
I've not played the 50's CV, but have played the 60's CV and it sounded great. The 3 things that would make me go with the CV due in part from Ed's review is the sound, body contour, bride that intonates, and price. Just my 2¢.