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73 Jazz on e-bay. Should I report this?

#22
I traded for a Stingray on here a while back. The guy I got it from insisted it was a late 80's model. Said he had got it around that time. From the pics I new it was from the early 90's. I didn't care that he was off on his facts and I did tell deal anyway. Love the bass.

The people who are buying/looking for that bass are going to know what they are looking at.
 
#23
elgranluis said:
I think my 72 J, 4 bolt, no bullet, has a 369xxx serial number. Ill double check an post back.

I did at one point own a 67 with lollipop tuners which most people though was impossible (internet wisdom), but had I taken it to norm or gruhn for an appraisal (pups, serial, and pots all lined up) then we'd probably have a different story now.

Anyway, about my 67 with lollipops, Pause at 1:01:



(If you choose to see all of the video there are several shots of the bass).

So anyway, apart from the so called "original owner" (who sold the bass to me) having changed the original tuners for lollipops, this bass remains a mistery.
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A 67 Jazz? Those often came with lollipop tuners. I had an early 68 Precision Bass with Lollipops, and no one believed it was a 68. It was, and had the transition decal like a 67. They were only like that for a few months. Mine dated to January of 68, but the Jazz basses had those tuners as early as 66.
 
#24
Yeah, lollipops were used from late 1965-69 on Jazzes and (less commonly) on Ps too. In fact if a '67 Jazz didn't have lollipops, it would put up a red flag because the "elephant ear" tuners didn't come around till sometime in '68. In '66 and '67 it was either lollipops or Klusons (which is what came on most Ps until '68).
 
#25
thebrian said:
That neck, being a 3-bolt with the "TV" logo on the headstock would have been made in '75 or '76. So I don't believe the seller that he bought it new in '73. A '73 Jazz with a 300000s ser. # would be a 4-bolt. But...
Strats went to 3-bolt earlier than the Jazzes (around 1972), so a 3-bolt plate with that # almost definitely came off a Strat that got parted out and someone (the seller?) bought it and put it on this bass. Notice there are no photos of the neck stamp, and the electronics have been swapped out to actives, so no pot or P/U codes to say otherwise (ahem.. 1976).
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i vaguely remember finditonlyhere on ebay selling a 3 bolt 73. i remember thinking no f'ing way, but all of his pics showed it dated 73.
 
#27
I always run ebay listings through my translation filter:

"from the 60s" = late 70s if you're lucky but more likely 80s - 90s.
"...I believe..." = I have no idea what this means but I saw it in another listing and it seemed to bump the price. As I have no idea what this means the chances of my item having it are pretty close to nil.
"vintage" = oldish and a bit beat up
"as is" = broken
"has character" = **** I dropped it and a bit broke off
"probably an easy fix" = **** I dropped it in the bath and then ran over it with a truck. were those flames normal? The smoke smell will have cleared by the time I ship it anyway.
"in full functional condition" = FUBAR!
"comes with soft case" = I know i's not a case, it's a cheapie gigbag, but guitars with a case sell for more $$ so I'm spinning it. See, I'm phsychologising you -- now you think there's a case but I have plausible deniability.
"lower 48 only" = Rush Limbaugh told me foreigners are the devil. Ah'm a loadin' up m' gun.
"I have no way of testing" = see "as is"
 
#29
devnulljp said:
I always run ebay listings through my translation filter:

"from the 60s" = late 70s if you're lucky but more likely 80s - 90s.
"...I believe..." = I have no idea what this means but I saw it in another listing and it seemed to bump the price. As I have no idea what this means the chances of my item having it are pretty close to nil.
"vintage" = oldish and a bit beat up
"as is" = broken
"has character" = **** I dropped it and a bit broke off
"probably an easy fix" = **** I dropped it in the bath and then ran over it with a truck. were those flames normal? The smoke smell will have cleared by the time I ship it anyway.
"in full functional condition" = FUBAR!
"comes with soft case" = I know i's not a case, it's a cheapie gigbag, but guitars with a case sell for more $$ so I'm spinning it. See, I'm phsychologising you -- now you think there's a case but I have plausible deniability.
"lower 48 only" = Rush Limbaugh told me foreigners are the devil. Ah'm a loadin' up m' gun.
"I have no way of testing" = see "as is"
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Hilarious!
 
#33
narud said:
i vaguely remember finditonlyhere on ebay selling a 3 bolt 73. i remember thinking no f'ing way, but all of his pics showed it dated 73.
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I wouldn't doubt it if there are a few pre-74 3-bolt Jazzes that exist (maybe when Fender was experimenting with going that route with the Jazz). I also know finditonlyhere personally, and I really don't think he would "fake" something like that. I wonder if his neck had a date stamp? I'm thinking it was probably a late '74 3-bolt neck and body with '73 pots n' P/Us.??

In this case though, with the electronics being replaced, I think it's much much more likely that it's a '75/76 with a '72 Strat neck plate on it.
 
#34
thebrian said:
I wouldn't doubt it if there are a few pre-74 3-bolt Jazzes that exist (maybe when Fender was experimenting with going that route with the Jazz). I also know finditonlyhere personally, and I really don't think he would "fake" something like that. I wonder if his neck had a date stamp? I'm thinking it was probably a late '74 3-bolt neck and body with '73 pots n' P/Us.??

In this case though, with the electronics being replaced, I think it's much much more likely that it's a '75/76 with a '72 Strat neck plate on it.
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Aren't 3 bolt strat neck plates smaller?
 
#35
Whatever but I LOL'd at the description. After forty years owning it he DISCOVERED finally that he's better as a drummer. Even have a hard time believing someone my age or older doesn't use capitals at the beginning of sentences when selling something. IMHO, ymmv.
 
#37
Just throwing this out there. A buddy of mine put a les paul on CL. it was given to him by a friend who provided documentation and even a serial number look up showed us that it was legit. but guess what? it wasnt legit. it was a korean knock off.

some times you dont know. and with websites like ebay and cl, theres even more people who just dont know what they have. heck, maybe the guy doesnt even play
 
#38
narud said:
Aren't 3 bolt strat neck plates smaller?
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Dluxe said:
Yes they are. More likely a Telecaster Bass plate. They were 3 bolt starting in 1972, or when they started using the large humbucking pickup.
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See, ya learn something new everyday! I never noticed 3-bolt Strat plates were smaller than the Basses. So yes, I agree that it was probably off a Tele bass.
 

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