99.99% sure I got duped by Guitar Center

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by ModulusQ5-122, Jun 19, 2020.

  1. ModulusQ5-122

    ModulusQ5-122 Supporting Member

    Jan 28, 2011
    Lafayette, La
    I bought this bass used from guitar center online. It was titled as a “Ken Smith Custom shop bass guitar”. I was skeptical even before I got it but I’m pretty sure after receiving it that it’s a fake. What do you guys think? I know I can simply just return it to my local GC but thought it was kinda crazy that they would sell a fake and title it as the real thing.
  2. Unbelievable ...
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  3. Flaked Beans

    Flaked Beans

    Sep 9, 2005
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  4. Eilif

    Eilif Grooving under the MDW runway.

    Oct 1, 2001
    I think this story needs more information. I'm no expert, so why do we think it is a fake? Have you contacted Ken Smith to see if it's legit?
  5. Ghastly


    Oct 18, 2015
    Mill Valley
    Thinking the same thing...
    EDIT: But I feel I must ask, if you suspected a fake before buying it, why did you? Cheap price worth the risk/hassle if proven a fake?
  6. dju


    Jan 15, 2014
    sometimes they just don't know what they are looking at and have no idea. i once looked at what was labeled an American telecaster. what it was was an American neck on a mim body. there are some easily discernible differences between the two bodies. i also bought an jet city jca22 that was labeled and priced as a jca20. got the 2 channel version for the price of the 1 channel amp. i pointed out both mistakes.
  7. B-Mac

    B-Mac Happiness is a warm puppy and a great bass Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    If it wasn’t around $3,000 it wasn’t real.

    Looks like something from DH Gate out of China.

    If you paid more than $340 you got ripped off.

    If you paid less you got a fake for a new price


    Scroll down after you go to the link
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  8. StyleOverShow

    StyleOverShow Still Playing After All These Years Gold Supporting Member

    May 3, 2008
    Makes the case for doing the research before you buy...no problemo though, return it without penalty to GC. Are you trying to hold them responsible?
  9. BoomBoomOGTL

    BoomBoomOGTL Supporting Member

    Jul 19, 2012
    York SC
    How much $ did you pay for it?

    If it’s under $500, you knew the answer before you hit the purchase button.
  10. mikeswals

    mikeswals Supporting Member

    Nov 18, 2002
    Seattle / Tacoma
    Looks all wrong.
    For starters those knobs are all bunched together. A real Smith pre has separate boards and therefore the knobs would be spread apart. The shape of the body is just off, and has a very flat appearance where Smiths have very rounded edges. The S logo looks upsidedown. Not a Smith nut, not a Smith bridge. The headstock looks way chubbier.
  11. Reedt2000

    Reedt2000 Supporting Member

    Apr 26, 2017
    Central New Jersey
    Yup, totally this ^

    This is by no means the first such misrepresentation like this I've seen at GC. I would tell you (and seriously, I mean no offense) if you couldn't tell this example wasn't as high quality of a bass as a Smith, you should slow down before making purchases like that and do some more research, or just ask here 1st :D. It is GC so at least a return should be easy.
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  12. Mastodon2


    Feb 27, 2008
    Fake. Faker than a really fake thing.

    The "S" logo is upside down, the knob spacing is off, the body is a vague approximation of something you'd see on a real Smith but not close enough to fool anyone who knows bass guitars. It definitely has the air of a $300 Chinese counterfeit job.
  13. jd56hawk


    Sep 12, 2011
    The Garden State
    If you do return it, just don't do it like this.

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  14. Ace Of Bass

    Ace Of Bass A Rooster Illusion

    Jun 27, 2006
    What I find just as alarming is the purchaser at that store is in the position to buy for GC and can’t tell the difference between what’s authentic and what’s not...if that was a gift for someone, that would have been a disaster..
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  15. mongo2


    Feb 17, 2008
    Da Shaw
    Yeah, return it.
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  16. lfmn16

    lfmn16 Inactive

    Sep 21, 2011
    charles town, wv
    The easiest people to cheat are the ones that think you can get something for nothing.
  17. k5koy


    Oct 27, 2008
    Dallas, Tx.
    Thats why GC is an emergency parts store for me...
  18. The "S" on the Guitar Center Smith is janky.
    Below is a bona fide Ken Smith headstock for reference.

    headstock.JPG headstock.JPG
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  19. Hand slap

    Hand slap

    Feb 14, 2016
    I had a Smith, and everyone I have seen seem too have a real fancy brass nut, the back of the head stock also has odd protruding wood, to allow for the truss rod hardware.
  20. levis76

    levis76 Defender of the Low Ender Supporting Member

    Apr 14, 2007
    Metro Detroit
    I seem to have located the problem.