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A New "Wish" Competitor?

I have found it to be intresting that a person who bought a bass on e-bay was counterdicting himself a lot and did not know really what he was talking about for example

1. on 3-17-2010 bought a bass and by 3-18-2010 was already complaining about the hardware and talking about how could this guy afford to make basses and sell them so cheap.(I use all basic hardware so if people would like to upgrade they can, that is one way I keep costs down) also on 3-18-2010 he was already calling this unknown builder a risk
If he was so worried about the builder being high risk (why buy from someone like that, he know what he was getting into before he bought it.)
ALSO on 3-17-2010 he was already expecting a POS as he said and he did not recieve it yet (if that is what he was expecting DO NOT BUY)

2. on 3-18-2010 another person stated that the builder had 163 positive and maybe not so positive a few months later. (They should talk to the repeat buyers who find the basses really nice and very playable.)

3. By 3-19-2010 this person already had issues with e-bay but the payment was sent. (So by the time the builder recieved the money and sent the bass out it would talk between 7-10 days being payment recieved on 3-19-2010 sent out on 3-20-2010 and he recieved the bass on 3-30-2010 (10 days later not 2 weeks)

4. he said he did not recieve a confermation number and he wrote to the builder 2 times (the builder only recieved one message and by the time he got a new confermation slip from the post office the person already recieved their bass. Other people on herer have stated taht they recieved answers very promptly, I do my best)

5. on 3-25-2010 someone said "dr. bass wannabe" store has no items. (That is because I sell them as I make them so I do have a limited supply And for one man doing this by myself I think that their are alot of happy people out there.)

6. 3-30-2010 he recieved the bass and said he could tell by looking at it no need to even play it (how do you know the bass works by looking at it)

7. 3-30-2010 he refused to make adjustments to fix the intonation , but yet he said prior he dd not play it so how does he know it was the intonation.

8. 3-30-2010 he said that he would not wish this thing on anyone. (so why did he resell it? why not return it? he would get more money returning it than selling it and passing his "headach" to someone else that is not very nice, Even though the as-is clause is in there that does not mean squat according to e-bay the buyer has more rights than the seller.) (That is just like going to a store and buying something and getting home it does not work and he calls the store they do not call back does that mean to talk badly about the store and sell teh broken item to someone else)

9. 3-31-2010 he said the frets are not ground and he said an angle grinder was used (I do not own an angle grinder and the frets are all parrallel

10. he sid their was a crack in the fret board (NOT A CRACK NATURAL WOOD as I state in all my auctions natural wood and natural flaws. Remember this wood is over 70+ years old so it will have what appears to be cracks but it is not.)

11. I am a stand up guy all he had to do was communicate with me and it raises alot of questions when there is no communication.

12. he said the nut was too high (Nut height is probably one of the most crucial aspects of how your guitar feels within the first 5 frets, but it also effects the feel of the whole fretboard to some degree. Quite simply the nut should be as low as it can go without causing string buzz on the first fret. For a quick judge fret each string at the first fret and look at the clearance it has over the second. Compare to the gap between the top of the first fret and each string with the string open. Near 100% of all new Ibanez guitars have nuts that are way too high. Most of the new
Jems I receive have nut height at the first fret low E around 1mm, about .7mm too high!! I've been complaining about it to the company for years and the only thing that's happened is they've
gotten higher. According to website http://www.ibanezrules.com/tech/setup/nut.htm)

13. Also he said the frets buzz all over the neck which almost seems impossible because the action is too high ( Fret Buzz - If your getting fret buzz on your bass your strings are likely to low
and buzzing on the frets. There are usually two easy ways to adjust for this. First check the curve of your neck with the tips listed above. Is your neck curved to much.
If so straighten out your neck with your neck adjustment info above. Secondly, your bridge pieces may be set to low. A lower setting on your bridge pieces may cause fret buzz.
The bridge pieces on a bass are usually the four ridged piece where the strings set on the bridge. They usually have screws to adjust them up or down. Try raising the pieces where the
strings sit that you are having the problem. Just raise them a little at a time until the problem disappears. (according to website: http://mediawebsource.com/bass/basssetup.htm)

14. to adjust the action refer to website: Invalid Link Removed

15. Bolt On Vs. Bolt In Both ways work very well as long as you get a tight neck fit. The bolt in like the Quicksilver is superior because there is no protruding flange to bolt the neck onto. The neck actually bolts in through the back of the guitar. Consequently you get better stability, even more tone & sustain and as an added bonus you can reach higher up the neck. More notes, more better sounding notes !!!!
The Quicksilver goes one better, The Quicksilver actually incorporates the rhythm or neck pickup right into the neck joint. To my knowledge no other company affixes one pickup directly to the tongue of the neck and the other one directly to the body. We have been doing this modification to PRS guitars for more than 15 years. It really works well on a PRS the difference is noticeable even for a novice player. The modification is completely invisible and you cannot tell it has been done except by listening to it. We do it to set neck models and to Bolt In models. Personally I think it works best on a Bolt In Model but even a novice can easily hear the difference on a set neck version of a PRS.
According to website: http://www.edroman.com/guitars/abstract/quicksilverneckthru.htm (there you will see a bolt on neck with screws the same way mine are)

16. he also refused to adjust the truss rod to see how well it works cause he said he has no time but he has all the time to write negative remarks about the builder. Basses need to be adjusted to what the person likes if they do not adjust it they will never like it such as in this case
17. As for insureance I learned never to leave it up to the buyer and so since taht day I did include insurance on all my basses sold

18. I do not build basses for niave bass players if that was the case then you mean to tell me out of all the positive feedback only 2 were from people that said they did not like the bass so that means they are the only 2 that are not niave Come on! I find that hard to believe. (the other guy that refused insurance and recieved the broken basses from usps would not count cause he was upset that he did not have insurance and usps broke them.

19. I work full time so this is not my every day way to make money to pay me bills so this is how I can afford to do this I pretty much sell them for cost and make very little for myself. I just enjoy doing this and sharing them with others. If someone wants wall art I'll draw them a picture but if they want a bass I will make them one.

20. I am the builder of these basses and if anyone has any questions please feel free to ask me before you want to talk behind my back. That way everyone can get the facts out of the horses mouth.
 
hurrah for timbass96! I love it when a builder comes on board to talk about and or defend his product! I salute you for coming on here and answering questions, and I appreciate the fact that you are a small manufacterer having the temerity to make something and sell it.

As with all builders, you will either learn from mistakes made, or disappear into obscurity, one or the other always happens. I'm rooting for you if only for the fact that I want to get my feet wet doing this one day myself.
 
8. 3-30-2010 he said that he would not wish this thing on anyone. (so why did he resell it? why not return it? he would get more money returning it than selling it

Your ad clearly states "All sales are as is and no refunds." There appears to be a contradiction. Are you now rescinding that policy? If so, you should change your Ebay ads.
 
There's most likely a middle ground between the two sides.

The frets appear to at least be parallel, although the fret job doesn't look great. The bass is still pretty, and i'm hoping that the 2nd guy can get it in a playable condition.

TBH setting up the basses prior to shipping would have been the best way to go about this.
 
Your ad clearly states "All sales are as is and no refunds." There appears to be a contradiction. Are you now rescinding that policy? If so, you should change your Ebay ads.

I have had to return very few things purchased on ebay, the seller usually had a stated no return policy, but most people are reasonable, especially if you are very unhappy with what you receive. Even if a seller has a stated no return policy, it's usually to your advantage to contact them and at least ask about returning said item.
 
I have found it to be intresting that a person who bought a bass on e-bay was counterdicting himself a lot and did not know really what he was talking about for example

1. on 3-17-2010 bought a bass and by 3-18-2010 was already complaining about the hardware and talking about how could this guy afford to make basses and sell them so cheap.(I use all basic hardware so if people would like to upgrade they can, that is one way I keep costs down) also on 3-18-2010 he was already calling this unknown builder a risk
If he was so worried about the builder being high risk (why buy from someone like that, he know what he was getting into before he bought it.)
ALSO on 3-17-2010 he was already expecting a POS as he said and he did not recieve it yet (if that is what he was expecting DO NOT BUY)

2. on 3-18-2010 another person stated that the builder had 163 positive and maybe not so positive a few months later. (They should talk to the repeat buyers who find the basses really nice and very playable.)

3. By 3-19-2010 this person already had issues with e-bay but the payment was sent. (So by the time the builder recieved the money and sent the bass out it would talk between 7-10 days being payment recieved on 3-19-2010 sent out on 3-20-2010 and he recieved the bass on 3-30-2010 (10 days later not 2 weeks)

4. he said he did not recieve a confermation number and he wrote to the builder 2 times (the builder only recieved one message and by the time he got a new confermation slip from the post office the person already recieved their bass. Other people on herer have stated taht they recieved answers very promptly, I do my best)

5. on 3-25-2010 someone said "dr. bass wannabe" store has no items. (That is because I sell them as I make them so I do have a limited supply And for one man doing this by myself I think that their are alot of happy people out there.)

6. 3-30-2010 he recieved the bass and said he could tell by looking at it no need to even play it (how do you know the bass works by looking at it)

7. 3-30-2010 he refused to make adjustments to fix the intonation , but yet he said prior he dd not play it so how does he know it was the intonation.

8. 3-30-2010 he said that he would not wish this thing on anyone. (so why did he resell it? why not return it? he would get more money returning it than selling it and passing his "headach" to someone else that is not very nice, Even though the as-is clause is in there that does not mean squat according to e-bay the buyer has more rights than the seller.) (That is just like going to a store and buying something and getting home it does not work and he calls the store they do not call back does that mean to talk badly about the store and sell teh broken item to someone else)

9. 3-31-2010 he said the frets are not ground and he said an angle grinder was used (I do not own an angle grinder and the frets are all parrallel

10. he sid their was a crack in the fret board (NOT A CRACK NATURAL WOOD as I state in all my auctions natural wood and natural flaws. Remember this wood is over 70+ years old so it will have what appears to be cracks but it is not.)

11. I am a stand up guy all he had to do was communicate with me and it raises alot of questions when there is no communication.

12. he said the nut was too high (Nut height is probably one of the most crucial aspects of how your guitar feels within the first 5 frets, but it also effects the feel of the whole fretboard to some degree. Quite simply the nut should be as low as it can go without causing string buzz on the first fret. For a quick judge fret each string at the first fret and look at the clearance it has over the second. Compare to the gap between the top of the first fret and each string with the string open. Near 100% of all new Ibanez guitars have nuts that are way too high. Most of the new
Jems I receive have nut height at the first fret low E around 1mm, about .7mm too high!! I've been complaining about it to the company for years and the only thing that's happened is they've
gotten higher. According to website http://www.ibanezrules.com/tech/setup/nut.htm)

13. Also he said the frets buzz all over the neck which almost seems impossible because the action is too high ( Fret Buzz - If your getting fret buzz on your bass your strings are likely to low
and buzzing on the frets. There are usually two easy ways to adjust for this. First check the curve of your neck with the tips listed above. Is your neck curved to much.
If so straighten out your neck with your neck adjustment info above. Secondly, your bridge pieces may be set to low. A lower setting on your bridge pieces may cause fret buzz.
The bridge pieces on a bass are usually the four ridged piece where the strings set on the bridge. They usually have screws to adjust them up or down. Try raising the pieces where the
strings sit that you are having the problem. Just raise them a little at a time until the problem disappears. (according to website:

14. tohttp://www.talkbass.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=162203&d=1269990291 adjust the action refer to website: Invalid Link Removed

15. Bolt On Vs. Bolt In Both ways work very well as long as you get a tight neck fit. The bolt in like the Quicksilver is superior because there is no protruding flange to bolt the neck onto. The neck actually bolts in through the back of the guitar. Consequently you get better stability, even more tone & sustain and as an added bonus you can reach higher up the neck. More notes, more better sounding notes !!!!
The Quicksilver goes one better, The Quicksilver actually incorporates the rhythm or neck pickup right into the neck joint. To my knowledge no other company affixes one pickup directly to the tongue of the neck and the other one directly to the body. We have been doing this modification to PRS guitars for more than 15 years. It really works well on a PRS the difference is noticeable even for a novice player. The modification is completely invisible and you cannot tell it has been done except by listening to it. We do it to set neck models and to Bolt In models. Personally I think it works best on a Bolt In Model but even a novice can easily hear the difference on a set neck version of a PRS.
According to website: http://www.edroman.com/guitars/abstract/quicksilverneckthru.htm (there you will see a bolt on neck with screws the same way mine are)

16. he also refused to adjust the truss rod to see how well it works cause he said he has no time but he has all the time to write negative remarks about the builder. Basses need to be adjusted to what the person likes if they do not adjust it they will never like it such as in this case
17. As for insureance I learned never to leave it up to the buyer and so since taht day I did include insurance on all my basses sold

18. I do not build basses for niave bass players if that was the case then you mean to tell me out of all the positive feedback only 2 were from people that said they did not like the bass so that means they are the only 2 that are not niave Come on! I find that hard to believe. (the other guy that refused insurance and recieved the broken basses from usps would not count cause he was upset that he did not have insurance and usps broke them.

19. I work full time so this is not my every day way to make money to pay me bills so this is how I can afford to do this I pretty much sell them for cost and make very little for myself. I just enjoy doing this and sharing them with others. If someone wants wall art I'll draw them a picture but if they want a bass I will make them one.

20. I am the builder of these basses and if anyone has any questions please feel free to ask me before you want to talk behind my back. That way everyone can get the facts out of the horses mouth.

You MUST be kidding! Just a few points........

In the photo below, I find it interesting that the "natural" crack runs right up the center of the fretboard where you drilled the marker holes. Are the strings being that far off center on the neck something I was expected to "adjust" also?? What about the nut?? I've owned well over 50 basses in my lifetime and the nut on this bass is 3 times higher than ANY bass I've EVER seen. And yes, the frets look like they were finished with an angle grinder. I've NEVER seen anything like it. Look at the rest of the photos I posted in this thread. If you honestly believe you are producing a qualty product, I wish you the best of luck, you'll need it. The bass I recieved was FAR from playable without MAJOR rework or all out rebuilding. My descriptions here are DEAD ON. When it arrives at it's new home, I welcome his thoughts on it here as well.

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I have had to return very few things purchased on ebay, the seller usually had a stated no return policy, but most people are reasonable, especially if you are very unhappy with what you receive. Even if a seller has a stated no return policy, it's usually to your advantage to contact them and at least ask about returning said item.

Yes, that's sometimes the case, but often is not.

However, for the seller, it should be "say what you mean, and mean what you say." Either he takes returns, or he doesn't. Our Florida friend was operating under the assumption that the ad meant what it said. So, for the seller to say "no returns" in the ad yet show up here and say "why didn't he return it?" strikes me as a bit disingenuous.
 
Timbass96 give it up...move on..its over. Fl Knifemakers pics alone speak for themselves and as he said in the very first post he was taking a chance and hoping for a good product. You didn't deliver..its too plain to see. FL Knifemaker wasn't out to slam you only find possibly a good deal. He did however have the right to review what you sent him and how he felt about the money he spent/over.
 
Dang, I have no dog, knife or bass in this fight, but I want to play devil's advocate for this guy nonetheless. I want to start building basses in the near future, if my company will be so inclined to either lay me off or keep me home more instead of travelling all the time. I am quite positive I will either deliver a very playable bass to anyones standards or I will keep it at home in shame.

That being said, if I were building now, and someone received a bass from me that they were less than enchanted with, I would love to have that person contact me, regardless of return policies and either fix the problems or get them their money back. The golden rule applies in any business transaction if you want to be successful.

I don't know why I'm defending this builder otherwise, as I stated earlier, you either learn from your mistakes or you disappear. I want to see more independent builders doing stuff in their spare time, not less. That is where innovation typically springs from, not someone copying a design that has been around for 50+ years. I agree the seller should have left some leeway in returns as he is a new builder, but caveat emptor always prevails. I applaud FLknifemaker in taking the plunge and reporting on this builder, I also applaud the builder himself coming in here and defending himself. Free enterprise will always win out, I'm pulling for the builder to improve and refine and put out entry level "playable" basses for us to enjoy, much as Steve Wishnevsky, love him or hate him has done.
 
TimBass...I was the guy who started this thread, I was going to order one the following week, but FLKnifemaker beat me to it.

We here on TalkBass were excited and encouraged to see what you were doing. You COULD have turned TB into your own private "Promotional Department" singing your praises daily (see the "Wish" fan Threads)... IF you had delivered a reasonably playable instrument, or one that could even be MADE playable.

You blew it. We're all disappointed, that's all. Goodbye.
 
In my experience as an IT consultant in the business world, I've found that frank admission of failures and shortcomings, including enumerations of ways to improve in the future, goes a lot farther in client relationships than becoming overly defensive and defending work that is indefensible. I wish this builder well in his future endeavors; perhaps he will be prudent enough to incorporate our suggestions for improvement.
 
you give me a bad rap Why? have you touched or played my basses? no disrespest but it sounds like you know what you are talking about. How can I prove my self Tom.

A bad rap? Look at those pics guy. Please! You put that bass out with your name on it! When i did a job and signed my name to it i made dang sure it was as near perfect as possible. You can pick anybody's work apart but TB'ers for the most part know a good or even decent thing when they see it. I was watching this thread thinking hummm... I might bite on one of these if they are decent. FL Knifemaker did a review and saved us all disappointment and $. In your case/Fail!
 
I have never sent out a bass or guitar with these claims. Do not judge me with only one guy that thinks that all is good on what ever he buys. Remember buying what he bought may be from his pic. but all in all I WILL NEVER DO ANYONEONE WRONG. wE ARE ALL BASS PLAYERS. i LOST MY THUNB IN 99" aND THIS RUINED my bass playing. So I aways did a complete bass feel on what it took to build a bass. I was a carpenter and a artist so why not put the two together. i know It is tough to compete with the big boys, but why why alway compare to them. we all know the secretes and we want to expand and make a name for our selfs. so Lets get on with what we think is right and stop feeding off the ones that want to bring us down. Thank you for reading.
 
So basically what you're telling us is, ignore the information that FL Knifemaker has shared with us, and trust that you will send us a high quality bass for low low prices? You can't deny that the bass you sent to FL was of pathetic build, although you've tried. But can't you give us some sort of explanation, other than simply slandering him and accusing him of slander? He bought your bass and showed us pictures. I don't see any wrong there. What I see as wrong is the fact that you haven't said anything rational yet. You wrote up that big post of 20 points that only succeeded in convincing me that you don't know what you're talking about when it comes to basses, or customer service, or forming a logical argument. All I see you doing is insulting FL and assuring us that you're right, without any evidence of your own. At least FL has pictures.