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A tale of two Jazz basses

I’ve played primarily P basses since 2007, and for a solid 22 years before that played a Peavey Patriot and nothing but.

I’ve owned a few Jazzes since 2007 also, primarily higher end Squiers and a few MIM Standards here and there. None of them really stuck, but I do continue to have a CV60s fretless.

I recently decided it’s time to get a decent Jazz bass, so I went around to several stores a few weeks ago, tried the new Standard, the Player II, Vintera II, and the American Professional II. I found it interesting that the Player II had - in my opinion - the best tone of the bunch, possibly equaled by the Vintera II. I much preferred the playability of the Player II, as well as the difference in price.

I ordered online from the same store chain a Player II in the limited edition 3TS sparkle finish. It was expected to take two weeks to come in.

In the meantime, I also discovered a used American Professional (2018) in a finish I have long adored from afar - natural ash. I bought it, from the same store chain, it was delivered to my house much more quickly than the Player II was taking to do a store to store transfer. I figured I could just return whichever one I liked the least.

The Pro looks amazing. The pickups are ok - no complaints really, pretty standard Jazz bass tones, but nothing to fall in love with.

The Player II however - now that it’s here in my house, I still love the tone I’m getting from these pickups. Warm and punchy at the same time.

I’m kinda thinking I have to keep both now.

Not knowing much about Jazz pickups generally speaking, I’m considering replacing the Pro VMod pickups.

Can you talk me out of doing that?

If not, can you recommend a set that isn’t gonna break the bank but can give me anything from JPJ’s Zeppelin II tone to Geddy Lee? I like a punchy tone, not looking for a lot of highs, but decent lows - except for when I want to play Rush, in which case I want access to high mids.

Opinions on the Player II pickups? I haven’t played this bass with the band yet, so I may be using rose coloured IEMs. Based on my historical experience with MIM Standards, I wasn’t expecting to like these pickups, and certainly not more than stock MIA Fender pickups. The neck is really nice, and the finish is unique, but it’s really the pickups that are selling this for me, but you know how you can sometimes be very attracted to the wrong person for the wrong reasons? I worry that’s the case here, so would like either some validation of my opinion or for some folks to challenge it and give me a shake.

Opinions on the VMod Jazz pickups? I’m pretty familiar with the VMod P set, and in my two 2017 Pro P basses I replaced the pickups almost immediately, but what’s good for a P is not consistent with what’s good for a J (looking at you, S-1 switch and Greasebucket circuit). Should I maybe give them some time and experiment more? I just received it four days ago, and played it with the band once in that time. The bass is beautiful, playability is excellent, and I’d like to keep it.

Yeah, I’ve used search, and there’s a J pickup megathread. Anyone with any experience with databases and SQL queries understands my frustration with combing through that…

*Basically, my palette for Jazz pickups is not very refined, and I’m looking for some help in that area. I don’t slap, I play primarily finger style, occasionally with a pick.

American Professional
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Player II (not mine, image stolen from Reddit, but mine is identical and this is a good photo).
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I found it interesting that the Player II had - in my opinion - the best tone of the bunch
I’ve had that experience with several Player series jazz basses. They’re surprisingly good.

The Player II however - now that it’s here in my house, I still love the tone I’m getting from these pickups. Warm and punchy at the same time.
Always choose tone over looks. Always. You may find that changing the pickups in the Pro still doesn’t give you the same tone as you’re getting from the Player. The pickups themselves are not the only factor in a given instrument’s tone.

I’m kinda thinking I have to keep both now.
I think our work here is done. :smug:
 
Opinions on the Player II pickups? I haven’t played this bass with the band yet, so I may be using rose coloured IEMs.
I’m giving this a “👍Like” for that line alone!

Based upon the great sound I was getting from a Greenburst Player Plus Top Jazz, I got a set of similar, if not identical, Player pickups from another TB’er for a stoopid-low price. The only reason I replaced them was because I managed to find a set of barely used dream-pups, so this Player set is just taking up space. If you’re interested, shoot me a PM and we can discuss it further.
 
Somewhere out there, your ideal set of J pickups is waiting for you...
If you're lucky, you'll strike gold on our first try; if you're like me it may take a few attempts. But it should be worth it. (Just be sure the wood is worthy.)
FWIW my search ended with the standard Lollar single coil set. It delivers thump, depth, presence – and sizzle when I want it – in ways nothing else in my collection can match. Honorable mention to Aero Type I which is a little more hi-fi & less vintage-y – but still addictively cooperative.
YMMV
 
Somewhere out there, your ideal set of J pickups is waiting for you...
If you're lucky, you'll strike gold on our first try; if you're like me it may take a few attempts. But it should be worth it. (Just be sure the wood is worthy.)
FWIW my search ended with the standard Lollar single coil set. It delivers thump, depth, presence – and sizzle when I want it – in ways nothing else in my collection can match. Honorable mention to Aero Type I which is a little more hi-fi & less vintage-y – but still addictively cooperative.
YMMV
Thanks! They sound lovely, but I’m in Canada so they’re basically unobtainable, or with customs, exchange, tariffs etc completely unaffordable. Aeros would be even moreso.

Funny enough the Brantley’s are available and decently priced, but it’s hard to do a comparison when everyone seems to be playing them through a Geddy Lee Sansamp.
 
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Sorry to hear that. I used to live in Canada so I can sympathize.
I used to get a lot of parts from the classified section here. You have to be a little careful buying used pickups, but it can be a good way to try stuff then recoup if necessary.
I know not every seller is willing to go international – but some would be. IME Canada is a lot easier than overseas. And a set of pickups is a lot more manageable than a whole instrument.
 
I have played a lot of Jazz basses over the last 50 odd years. Currently have 3.

They vary a lot. Some are lower volume, not impressive tone wise and some howl, with the majority in between.

The other issue is they are commonly "auditioned" usually NOT, with your own amp rig, not at stage volume and not in a gig setting, which is mostly the prime reason for purchase.

This often leads to disappointment. I have found it easier to find a decent P bass than a Jazz offering.

Just an observation, but it favours finding a bass and taking a known amp to try it.
 
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I have played a lot of Jazz basses over the last 50 odd years. Currently have 3.

They vary a lot. Some are lower volume, not impressive tone wise and some howl, with the majority in between.

The other issue is they are commonly "auditioned" usually NOT, with your own amp rig, not at stage volume and not in a gig setting, which is mostly the prime reason for purchase.

This often leads to disappointment. I have found it easier to find a decent P bass than a Jazz offering.

Just an observation, but it favours finding a bass and taking a known amp to try it.
I agree with all of that, which explains why I’ve been playing pretty much only P basses since 1985. I now own two J’s which both sound fantastic on their own - completely different, but fantastic - but are leaving me underwhelmed in the band mix.

Geddy does it though lol
 
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