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Advice on light rig with good mids and highs
- Thread starter Wrc8166
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The only thing more difficult than getting a guitarist to turn down is getting him to change his EQ to better suit the group.
This is what I came here to say. Complimentary EQ is a big deal. I've had the same gear with 3 different guitarists in the same band and how and where I sit has had to change dramatically from one to the next. Often you need to find out how they're EQ'd first and work around them. Otherwise you'll just be competing and that turns into volume wars.
Sad, but true, the way you worded that...
Because working together would just be too easy.
Yep, and unfortunately they usually have no idea where there specific EQ dial actually sits. Fender "Hi Mid" and Marshall " Hi Mid" are not usually at the same frequency, so I usually have to research their amps first because they can't be bothered, and then EQ around that, but then again, I really like to cut through and i'm pretty anal about all that. I have a 31 band EQ in my rack for a reason.
The guitarist in my one band is one of my best and oldest friends, and we've been playing music together on and off for close to 20 years. He always runs his guitar with way too much gain and way too much low end, and absolutely refuses to take any suggestions or constructive criticisms on ways to improve his tone to better suit the band/room. It's "his" tone and he ain't changing it, no way no how. It worked fine when we were playing loud detuned metal in our teens and 20s, but not so appropriate for the Rolling Stones covers we're playing these days.
I've even tried to trick him by buying a Tubescreamer and giving it to him to use, but he didn't like it because it "sucked out too much of his tone", ie. cleaned up the low end and made room in the mix for the bass.
I've even tried to trick him by buying a Tubescreamer and giving it to him to use, but he didn't like it because it "sucked out too much of his tone", ie. cleaned up the low end and made room in the mix for the bass.
If you're in a band with more than one guitarist, I'm going to assume you aren't getting enough output from the one 210 to keep up with them. Also assuming that's an 8-ohm cabinet.
Understanding that asking them to turn down is a non-starter, I suggest getting another cabinet just like the one you have and running both of them.
Also earplugs.
Understanding that asking them to turn down is a non-starter, I suggest getting another cabinet just like the one you have and running both of them.
Also earplugs.
When recording "that guy," I've occasionally been known to recommend they reconsider playing with other people, since they fill up the entire tonal spectrum just fine by themselves..
When recording "that guy," I've occasionally been known to recommend they reconsider playing with other people, since they fill up the entire tonal spectrum just fine by themselves..
At least when recording you can high-pass the guitars during mixing.
Anyway, this is getting somewhat off topic.
OP, I'm sticking to my original suggestion... consider trying your 410 next time you practice.
And considering the highs in a 410 can sometimes beam like a flashlight, point it at whoever asked...
Your bass's output is VERY LOW if you are setting both volume at 3-4 on a passive bass, I assume that's the number on the dial? Always set P.U.'s full on either both or one. Your preamp would be not past noon and power section at 1 pm or so. Then the amp eq like someone stated, noon, 2pm, 2pm, noon, no filters. TWO 8 ohm cabs, like Markbass NY 2/10 stacked vertical.
Flats are not necessarily the problem, though some are darker than others. You don't need rounds on a Fender to have mids and highs for most music. Rounds can sound bright at the expense of mids. I'd trade mids for highs (but a balance both is better).
As per suggestions above, work with what you have (and take a peek at your band members' settings) before making any purchases. Start with amp flat, bass controls fully open, and adjust one thing at a time.
As per suggestions above, work with what you have (and take a peek at your band members' settings) before making any purchases. Start with amp flat, bass controls fully open, and adjust one thing at a time.
I wondered about that myself. Very low output. Always keep my bass on full volume unless there’s a specific reason to back it off.
If having the bass volumes on 10 causes the amp to distort just back off the input gain until it stops. But always present the amp with the bass’ full signal or close to...
Maybe not the best choice of words for me. What I mean is that people think that cut through the mix always means solo or be out front, but I'm thinking more about how treble helps with note separation - even when the music is very simple.
