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Aguilar 212 not happy :(

Angelsbass

Angelsbass

Feb 10, 2011
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#1
Ok TB's

Please help me! I sold my Dave Eden 410 cab and replaced it with the Aguilar 212. I love the tone but miss the oomph! I was in the studio last night and had it cranking and the bottom end on the 410 sounded soo much more full filling and smooth! I'm using my same head GK 1001rb II and I've been playing with the eq and I finally dialed in the right tone but lost that bottom end. I went with the Aggie 212 cuz I heard from many here that it was so much nicer than the 410. :confused:
Now Im wondering if I should find me another 410 or 610 which would be nicer as I can just stick to 1 cab.

Opinions anyone and everyone! :crying:
 
#3
If you have the Aguilar GS 212, then your missing a lot of the mids .... I had a GS212 and to get the so called "oomph", I used the Aguilar GS210 ... end result was a large set-up, that was pretty heavy, used together it was a nice sounding rig, the only limitation was the 350 watt rating on the GS210 .... sold/traded the set-up, as I was downsizing ... if your looking for a 410 cab .... I'd suggest the Berg HS410
 
#6
CL400Peavey said:
What kind of sound are you looking for? Can you post a clip of what you want in tone?

As far as "fuller" can you not dial it in? Is this a volume issue? Also what model of 212 s it?
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I have the GS212. I love the warm tone but Im lacking the low bottom end that the 410 cab was giving me. I was under the impression the I would get more low end from the 12's verses the 10's but I was wrong. I've been playing with the eq but there is no way the 12's will give me more or even match what the4 Eden 410 cab gave me. Im thing a 610 cab now and I should be set! :bassist:
 
#7
Volume wise its ok...its when I start hitting those low notes that I feel I just loose the sound. Almost like the 12's can't handle it. Its not farting but it just drops in tone noticably when I hit a A# or C for example. I know that I have a fuller sound with the 410 cab verses the 212 cab
 
#9
wow. this hasn't been my experience at all with the GS212. I find that it's outperformed any 410 I've ever tried. the Eden may have been something really special. I'm running a Mesa 400+ into mine and have found it to be all I've ever needed on many many gigs.

are you using the DB or the GS? what kind of head are you running into it?
 
#12
are you using the DB or the GS? what kind of head are you running into it?[/QUOTE]


Im running a GK 1001rb II 700watts to a GS212 Aguilar cab. I have plenty of head room and tone flexability just not the bottom end at higher volume. I just heard so many good things about the 12' cabs that I had to see for myself. Well my prefernce is the 10" cabs. The tone on the Aguilar is beautiful but as the power cranks the tone starts to diminsih on the lower notes.
 
#13
Your preference is for a lower cab tuning, not a specific driver size. IMO.
Your Eden was designed to have deeper low end response via box size and port tuning.
 
#14
Chef said:
Your preference is for a lower cab tuning, not a specific driver size. IMO.
Your Eden was designed to have deeper low end response via box size and port tuning.
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CHEF

I belive you hit it right on! The Eden box was deeper then the Aggie cab. The diffrence is surely noticable. At first I was considering the GK 412 cab to match my GK 1001 but of cours when someone says go right I go left! haha
I guess its all about trial & error. Sooner or later I will end up with something that will make me happy...kinda like a woman huh? haha
 
#16
I would never expect an Aggie GS 212 to have the same oomph and room-filling capability as an Eden 4x10. A craftsman picks the correct tool for the job. That way he doesn't have to blame the tool, rather he blames himself for choosing the wrong tool. ;)

M. M.
 
#17
Chef said:
It doesn't have to be about trial and error.
Being able to read and understand the manufacturers published specs can be informative and helpful.
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when the manufacturers published specs make sense.
As things are it's hard enough to find two manufacturers that even use similar protocols to arrive at their given specs.
Eden and SWR are pretty well known for giving unrealistic 1w/1m specs. Specs that are only realistic if you are measuring at 1k and not wideband. Seeing that most bassists like to minimize that frequency band it is a pretty useless figure.

I used to be obsessed with getting the most efficient cabinets possible. And if you believe Eden (and now DNA) their cabinets are 10db louder than their competitors who measure more honestly.
 

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