Aguilar AG700 Vs. Mesa D800+ need feedback

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by otto B, Jun 24, 2020.

  1. otto B

    otto B Supporting Member

    Dec 17, 2007
    El Paso Texas
    I need some help; I am looking between these two amps to match my Acme Low B2 Series III. I just got a use AG700 from a GC and it sounds awesome but the fan stays on all the time and loud, so if I am playing at low volumes all I hear is the fan. I would like to get feedback between both amps witch one is cleaner, punchier, versatile, and quieter.
     
  2. lomo

    lomo passionate hack Supporting Member

    Apr 15, 2006
    Montreal
    Never played an AG700, but the fan on my D800+ is dead quiet.
     
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  3. You might want to email Aguilar about that. Especially since it’s used, it might be an issue with the amp. Most modern amps have a sensor that tells the fan to go on only when it needs to, and if you’re playing so soft that the fan is louder than the actual output, that sounds suspicious. How long do you have to return it?
     
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  4. otto B

    otto B Supporting Member

    Dec 17, 2007
    El Paso Texas

    The good thing about this amp, I got it from a guitar center so I have 45 days to return it. I only lose $20 from the shipping. I will in contact with Aguilar tomorrow. I also just bought a Mesa D800 + because I want to do a side by side comparison.
     
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  5. otto B

    otto B Supporting Member

    Dec 17, 2007
    El Paso Texas
    That is a good comment, and true. One thing I have noted as I test the AG700 is that lower volumes the sound is different. I am waiting for the Mesa D800+ to show up to do my final comparison. I do like the Aguilar because it has great clarity, fullness, and its punchy. I loved my old Eich T1000 it was plain quiet and crystal clear but it didn't match right my cab.
     
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  6. jwindham

    jwindham

    Sep 17, 2006
    When I owned an AG700, I found the fan to be on almost from the get-go, too. I would have preferred a silent fan operation, and I even called the company to inquire, and they noted that it was part of the design to ensure it could safely operate. Given a choice, I really prefer quieter fans for home-recording. Now. if the tone is significantly more suited to my style, I'd be willing to make an exception. But, glad you will be able to at least compare the AG700 to the D800+. The subway series amps I've tried are very quiet, and when the fans do come on, I find them to be rather mild overall. The AG700 is a nice amp: very powerful, full sounding, perhaps less "give" than the tube emulation in the Subway amps. But, it has a nice tone. Very curious to hear your thoughts after comparing them both, though they both have their merits, and may suit different players/styles accordingly of course.
     
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  7. Al Kraft

    Al Kraft Supporting Member

    May 2, 2016
    Northern Virginia
    Good synopsis based on my own observations of those two heads.
     
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  8. otto B

    otto B Supporting Member

    Dec 17, 2007
    El Paso Texas
    once i get the mesa next week I will write my thoughts between both amps.
     
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  9. And I

    And I

    Feb 19, 2009
    Witchtown, MA
    Keep in mind with the Mesa D series amps -- the knobs are useful across their entire range. Some amps you get the gain up to 1 o'clock and the rest is just dialing in how much worse you want to sound. You turn the master past 1 o'clock to increase your chance of damaging your speakers without increasing the volume. You turn the EQ past 2 o'clock and it starts to distort. etc. so when you're A/B'ing these heads, play with the knobs on the Mesa more extremely than seems intuitive based on how most other amps work. my 2 cents.
     
  10. otto B

    otto B Supporting Member

    Dec 17, 2007
    El Paso Texas
    I was able to finally test both the Aguilar AG 700 and the Mesa D 800+ with my Acme Low B2 series III. I was super impressed with both amps. Great sounding amps. Here is my short view of both amps.

    Aguilar AG700
    I find the Aguilar AG700 to have a great sound, punchy while maintaining clarity. The amp has that nice warmth to the sound that fills perfectly. The bright and deep switches are great; the highs are exceptionally good, not too much sizzle in the sound, however, in my opinion, the deep switch felt like it gets a little bit too thick in the low end, I would never use it. I really love the sound of this amp. There two things that I found to be disappointing are; the fan is very loud and stays on all the time and is missing the Aux-in and a Headphone jack option. I would use this amp for life setting not so much for practice at the house as the fan can be annoying.

    Mesa D800+
    I just got the Mesa D800 plus. Wow, what an incredible amp, super versatile, punchy, and clean sounding. I am just blown away the sound and versatility of this amp. I can’t believe I have neglect to test this amp for years. The bright and deep switches are great; the highs are exceptionally good, incredibly low sizzle sound, the deep switch is outstanding, just enough low end to fill the room and still maintain the punch and clarity. The fan is very quiet. It has the Aux-in and Headphone jack options. This amp is an awesome amp for both life settings and practices at the house.

    In all the amps that I have try to match with the Acme Low B2 series III; Markbass Little mark III, TC Electronics Staccato 51, Aguilar AG700, EICH T1000 the Mesa D800 plus took the trophy. I am returning the Aguilar AG700 to the GC tomorrow and the Mesa is a 100% keeper.
     
  11. agedhorse

    agedhorse Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 12, 2006
    Davis, CA (USA)
    Development Engineer-Mesa Boogie, Development Engineer-Genzler (pedals), Product Support-Genz Benz
    Nice review, the points you found favorable are things that were on the TB community's most often cited list of important features.
     
  12. jeff7bass

    jeff7bass Inactive

    Apr 9, 2009
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  13. JOME77

    JOME77 Living in the Moment Supporting Member

    Aug 18, 2002
    Georgia
    I’ve owned both Otto And the fan on the Aguilar is louder than the one in the Mesa. I didn’t find the fan on the Aguilar that bothering though but I suspect in a church or maybe a theater setting (where there are frequently moments of silence) it would be audible. I’ve owned the Mesa D800+ and currently own the WD-800 and I had to literally feel for air flow through the vents to make sure that the fan was working. Very quiet.
     
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  14. Al Kraft

    Al Kraft Supporting Member

    May 2, 2016
    Northern Virginia
    First, I thought your review was very well written, It also matched my own experience playing the AG. As for the deep switch, I found it a bit overwhelming too and couldn't understand why as the bright switch seemed a little more useful.

    After playing it I noticed in the specs that the deep switch provides 6 dB boost staring at 250 HZ. I wonder if this broad low-mid and low boost might require some EQ trimming to get in reined-in, but didn't have an opportunity to go back and try it out again.

    I came away with the impression that Aguilar was going for a more direct competitor (than the TH) to the GK and Mesa heads while still retaining some of their signature tone. I got the sense it would work well in rock or modern country band, but didn't quite have the versatility/subtlety designed into the SW heads.
     
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  15. mmbongo

    mmbongo I have too many basses. Supporting Member

    The key to dialing in the Deep switch is utilizing the High Pass Filter. Engage the Deep switch, then crank up the HPF to fine tune out any boominess.
     
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  16. Al Kraft

    Al Kraft Supporting Member

    May 2, 2016
    Northern Virginia
    I could be wrong, but I don't remember the AG700 having a variable HPF, although an external one would be perfect for what you suggested.

    The 800+/WD/TT all do and it is great for tone shaping when beefing up the low end. Additionally I think the Mesa deep implementation is a little more musically tailored (at least to my ear) and a more subtle, but every effective low voicing boost.
     
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  17. mmbongo

    mmbongo I have too many basses. Supporting Member

    Sorry I read it wrong, I thought he was talking about the Deep switch on the Mesa. I wanted to say 'but the Deep switch does not make it too thick!' but now I realize he was talking about the Aguilar and not the Mesa.
     
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  18. craigmack1979

    craigmack1979

    Jan 27, 2011
    It’s great to have plethora of great class D bass amps available cause the way you feel bout that subway is the way I feel about every amp Aguilar makes from DB750/751 down to the TH350 and everything in between . Tried subway TT800 Hated it from jump … too many knobs … too many toggle switches … and not good for ole skool funk and r&b imo
     
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  19. agedhorse

    agedhorse Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 12, 2006
    Davis, CA (USA)
    Development Engineer-Mesa Boogie, Development Engineer-Genzler (pedals), Product Support-Genz Benz
    Maybe the TT-800 wasn't the right choice for you is you don't like many knobs... there are models with less knobs too which might have been a better choice?
     
  20. craigmack1979

    craigmack1979

    Jan 27, 2011
    I’m