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Amp,strings or pickups?

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by ZenG, May 18, 2017.


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  1. ZenG

    ZenG

    Dec 13, 2013
    Near the fridge
    I like my Gk Mb112 with extra 112 powered cab.

    Right now I'm running rounds on my basses.

    I get some good tones out of it all. I've EQ'd 'til there was nothing left to EQ...either on bass or amp.
    Tried Boss EQ pedal. Tried Eden WTD. Tried B1on Zoom.

    But I was looking for a little deeper low end. By that I mean the tones I get now are good...but...I was looking for something a little deeper and richer.

    Tried all kinds of string:- Flats, tapes, half-rounds, rounds...the list goes on.

    Flats and tapes give different tone than rounds but not any "deeper" tone than rounds.

    In a couple of instances rounds outperformed flats by a significant margin.

    They all sound good mostly but not as "deep" as I'd like. Hard to describe.

    Right now I'm using:-

    Squier Jag SS...stock pickups with rounds.
    Squier Bronco..P/J Red Lace sensors with rounds.
    Ibanex Mikro 4-string...stock pickups with rounds.

    So amp is 2 x 12.

    Go bigger amp? Different speaker size? New different pickups?
     
  2. Killed_by_Death

    Killed_by_Death Snaggletooth

    Jan 2, 2015
    heart of darkness
    de-coupling the cabs from the floor helps

    GreatGRAMMA-v2-857x500.
     
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  3. Pbassmanca

    Pbassmanca Never spit through an open doorway... Supporting Member

    Doesn't coupling with the floor increase the overall bass response, I mean like below 80hz ?
     
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  4. Pbassmanca

    Pbassmanca Never spit through an open doorway... Supporting Member

    That's a tough question to answer. I would say your best bet increasing your overall deep rich bass response to get yourself some different cabs or a different head and cab all together. There's a million different configurations out there right now that will give you deep tight rich sounding bass tone. I guess it just depends on your budget.
     
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  5. lz4005

    lz4005

    Oct 22, 2013
    You need about 4 more inches of string length. And/or a pickup closer to the neck.
     
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  6. Killed_by_Death

    Killed_by_Death Snaggletooth

    Jan 2, 2015
    heart of darkness
    30485UNILAD-imageoptim-thatswhatshesaid-fb.
     
  7. Pbassmanca

    Pbassmanca Never spit through an open doorway... Supporting Member

    Those Bronco basses can produce a surprisingly big Tone.
     
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  8. Killed_by_Death

    Killed_by_Death Snaggletooth

    Jan 2, 2015
    heart of darkness
    I'd rather have a broad timbre than a single big tone :smug:
     
  9. Pbassmanca

    Pbassmanca Never spit through an open doorway... Supporting Member

    That.......is what she said!
     
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  10. Pbassmanca

    Pbassmanca Never spit through an open doorway... Supporting Member

    Although I once did put a set of Seymour Duncan Quarter Pounders in a Pbass for a particular band to give me some more meat with my potatoes, and it did do the trick.
     
  11. Yahboy

    Yahboy

    May 21, 2008
    Fender 500 head + 410 cab or 2x15 cab
     
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  12. ZenG

    ZenG

    Dec 13, 2013
    Near the fridge
    That might be a good description ..... " a little more meat with the potatoes".

    I don't dislike the tone I get now. I'd just like a little more meat on it at times.

    Maybe I'll post some sound clips of what I have now..
     
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  13. FirewalZ

    FirewalZ

    Aug 14, 2014
    S.E. Michigan
    By deep....maybe you mean round,warm, thicker? That may not be within that GK's tonal footprint...dont get me wrong, great amps...just harder to get a fat, warm tone out of it.
     
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  14. ZenG

    ZenG

    Dec 13, 2013
    Near the fridge
    Something sort of akin to this :cool::- anyway, I'll trot on down to my bass store and try out the aforementioned Fender 500 head and some cabs...

     
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  15. craigie

    craigie

    Nov 11, 2015
    calgary
    Someone give this man a trophy!
     
  16. craigie

    craigie

    Nov 11, 2015
    calgary
    The dude I know with the fattest sound (Tommy from the 6L6's and a little voodoo, look them up) uses black tape wounds and rolls off his tone and treble completely. He also uses an alembic FX1 preamp and killer P basses with P or MM pickup. He also uses an octaver. Dusty Hill also uses an octave down and a fat distorted tone and gets a heck of a fat tone.

    So my vote is try tru bass tape wounds and roll back your treble and upper mids to remove bite so you can turn up the gain. Don't know your specific cabs but I play an Eden 212XLT and love the sound of the 12's. Maybe try an octaver too (though I haven't). The strings and that pedal is less of an investment and something you can always use.
     
  17. SteveCS

    SteveCS

    Nov 19, 2014
    UK
    Just my humble opinions...
    1: Turn the EQ towards flat and turn up the master volume.
    2: Create deeper tones by removing top, not adding bottom.
    3: Get a long-scale!
    YMMV...
     
  18. lz4005

    lz4005

    Oct 22, 2013
    "Deep" is a Ric played with a pick??
     
  19. Mushroo

    Mushroo Supporting Member

    Apr 2, 2007
    Massachusetts, USA
    Try plucking closer to the neck, and/or using the "palm mute" technique. A couple of tips to get a "deeper sound" without spending money on new gear.

    Also, are you playing with your band when you conduct these tonal experiments, or all by your self? Sometimes, the tone that sounds best in the bedroom is not the best sound in the mix. GK's are designed to sound good playing in a band. Amps that go too deep into the low bass can sometimes compete with the frequency slot of the kick drum.
     
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  20. bass40hz

    bass40hz Supporting Member

    Aug 13, 2014
    Sussex County, NJ
    no endorsements but would love a few ;-)
    I'm a GK guy, I use 2 x MB Fusion 800 amps with 2 x 210s and 2 x 115s...I shake the snot out of people noses...see what I am getting at ;-)