Ampeg SVT-212AV

[JimmyM]

Hey all!

Resurrecting a bit of an older thread since I'm consider an Ampeg 212AV. I currently have a Bergantino HD410 that I run with my 80s MTI SVT. It sounds great, but the cab seems a bit hifi for my tastes at times. I just got a 210AV for my practice rig and am really digging that, so I'm considering swapping my 410 out for the 212AV. Losing ~22 pounds of cab weight wouldn't hurt either! I mostly play small to medium-sized rock clubs (100-300 people). A few questions for the experts among us:

1) Do you think I'll miss out on anything tone-wise in moving from the Berg 410 setup to the SVT 212AV? Punch, clarity, definition? Obviously they're very different cabs, but wondering if the decrease in speaker area will have any major negative side effects.
2) Seems silly, but are the indents on top of the cab spaced correctly for my MTI SVT? The MTI amps are bigger than other SVTs, so not sure if the feet on the bottom of my amp would fit in the indents or not...if not, that could be a problem in terms of stability on top of the cab.

1. Only you can answer.

2. I doubt they'll fit an MTI as they're designed to fit the current V4B, but it's usually not hard to figure out a way to sit an SVT on it.

 

[shadven]

Hey all!

Resurrecting a bit of an older thread since I'm consider an Ampeg 212AV. I currently have a Bergantino HD410 that I run with my 80s MTI SVT. It sounds great, but the cab seems a bit hifi for my tastes at times. I just got a 210AV for my practice rig and am really digging that, so I'm considering swapping my 410 out for the 212AV. Losing ~22 pounds of cab weight wouldn't hurt either! I mostly play small to medium-sized rock clubs (100-300 people). A few questions for the experts among us:

1) Do you think I'll miss out on anything tone-wise in moving from the Berg 410 setup to the SVT 212AV? Punch, clarity, definition? Obviously they're very different cabs, but wondering if the decrease in speaker area will have any major negative side effects.
2) Seems silly, but are the indents on top of the cab spaced correctly for my MTI SVT? The MTI amps are bigger than other SVTs, so not sure if the feet on the bottom of my amp would fit in the indents or not...if not, that could be a problem in terms of stability on top of the cab.

IMHO - Don't do it. The 212 AV is not nearly as loud. I was very disappointed in the 212. I just picked up a 410HE and it is so much better. I don't really like the boomieness (new word) of the HLF.
The indents will match fine.

 

[Slpbass81]

IMHO - Don't do it. The 212 AV is not nearly as loud. I was very disappointed in the 212. I just picked up a 410HE and it is so much better. I don't really like the boomieness (new word) of the HLF.
The indents will match fine.

Surprised you think it's not loud enough. I have used it on 100+ gigs per year since 2012. It has played arenas and had no problem being loud enough with an Ampeg SVT-CL on it. It's the best cab I have owned to date besides my 8x10.

 

[mickenstein]

I love mine too! I've been running the V4B and TH500 through mine... Lots of booty in that cab

I'm considering getting this cab but wonder,..do the foot mounts on top designed for Ampeg heads in any way interfere with the Tone Hammer sitting flat?

 

[Mastermold]

I’m a fan of this combo.

 

[Mastermold]

I'm considering getting this cab but wonder,..do the foot mounts on top designed for Ampeg heads in any way interfere with the Tone Hammer sitting flat?

Nope.

 

[Ed Byrnes]

I have 2 and use them with a V4-b whenever there is no backline. They sound great and look badass.

 

[sharkbait130]

Been playing with 8 10s for several years now. Just played my first gig with my new 2 12. Loved it . It had plenty of room to spare. At around 1/3 the weight of the 8 10s , I think I'll be using it a lot.

 

[redstrand]

THe 2x12 is stellar and a 15 with it just is deep funky fun

 

[ccryder90]

Problem is people will turn their amps up to a good volume early in a set, then when the crowd starts gettin all crazy, us bassplayers start hitting the strings harder as a result of adreneline. So you're cruising along at 300w RMS (into a 500w cab) when you nail a BIG CHORD and the amp throws out a burst of 550w of peak power.... POW!! Cab is done. Use compression if you're afraid because it limits the spikes and will protect your speakers.

Isn't that what a limiter does?

 

[multimoto72]

I have 2 and use them with a V4-b whenever there is no backline. They sound great and look badass.

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Hi - do you secure them stacked or do they stay put? Thx!

 

[Mastermold]

Hi - do you secure them stacked or do they stay put? Thx!

I stack two SVT 15 cabs and they stay put. 212 should too. Here’s a photo of the 212 stack next to an 810 for comparison.

 

[multimoto72]

I stack two SVT 15 cabs and they stay put. 212 should too. Here’s a photo of the 212 stack next to an 810 for comparison.
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Thx!!

 

[multimoto72]

Wow it sounds great and looks ever better. I went in the 2ohm input and then daisy chained the cabs. Thoughts on that setup or is it better to use both the 2 ohm taps on the head?

 

[Ed Byrnes]

Hi - do you secure them stacked or do they stay put? Thx!

With the V4b I put them side by side on the floor with the V4b on top. Very stable, like a 4x10.

 

[multimoto72]

With the V4b I put them side by side on the floor with the V4b on top. Very stable, like a 4x10.

Thanks! Do you daisy chain the cabs or go into both 2 ohm inputs in the head? Preference?

Thx!!

 

[Ed Byrnes]

Thanks! Do you daisy chain the cabs or go into both 2 ohm inputs in the head? Preference?

Thx!!

Sorry, my previous response was in error...I was thinking of my SVT210s...the 212s are very stable when stacked and I usually daisy chain them.