Ampeg Tech Question (newbie)

[Snerek]

hey everyone,

this is my first post on these boards so i hope you guys can help me....


i recently bought an ampeg svt 4 pro & an ampeg 6x10 cab.. great sound, amazing quality.. i love it.. however!

i'm using a 5 string bass (B-G) with active emg pickups.. and i operate in (-15db) setting because of these pickups..


this is the problem though, at high intensity volumes my low end notes "flop, dub, distort, sound like crap"

i'm not sure why this is, but if anyone has any advice for me i would really appreciate it.. i might just have my bass setting on my eq set too low, however, i would like to think my cabinet could handle that.

 

[i_got_a_mohawk]

Its probably too much bass being added at by the EQ. Is the ultra-low button being used? because thats the bad button, nobody wants to use that!

( PS welcome to TB )

 

[Snerek]

yes i am utilizing the ultra low button, what do you suggest for proper tone (eq)?


i always liked the ultra low sound, but at high volumes its a bit much..

 

[8mmOD]

That crappy sound is caused by overexcursion of the speaker. It is being pushed beyond its rating.

you should be able to get the ulra low type sound, but better, by using the graphic eq. boost the lows & highs, slightly scoop the mids. but ditch the ultra low button

 

[smo]

Those guys are right,
I also find it can help to set your amp EQ as flat, or close too, and use the bass to shape things and work from there, just change things incrementely.

 

[Snerek]

...i'm so glad i've found this board...


you guys are great, thanks for the help.. i'm heading to our rehearsal space tonight and i will be continuing my search for "my tone"..


thanks guys

 

[Snerek]

i still was not able to fix this problem.. i may need to work on the EQ more..



but i was thinking about going with a EADGC tuning..


thoughts?

 

[rodl2005]

I've a 410HLF & its fine w/ my MM SR5 string. Try the amp w/ ALL the EQ settings flat. See what happens then. The HLF cabs are huge in the arse-end(bottoms) But I have no probs w/ mine & notes below low E - if yrs is STILL doing it - perhaps U are putting too much wattage into the speakers??? I dunno the RMS rating of the 610. U MAY need a different cab- some say the 610HLF isn't as good as the 410HLF ????? I dunno each to hisn own. Tell us how U go.

 

[Groundloop]

this is the problem though, at high intensity volumes my low end notes "flop, dub, distort, sound like crap"

..... i might just have my bass setting on my eq set too low, however, i would like to think my cabinet could handle that.

I've never used your amp/cab combination, so I don't have any suggestions specific to your rig, but I'm curious where the above mentioned "flop, dub, distort, sound like crap" starts to happen. I ask because if it's breaking up that bad at E, F, F# etc, tuning EADGC probably won't avoid the issue. Besides, I'd rather fix a problem than avoid it.

I have a Yorkville XS800 and I've just picked up the Yorkville XC808 (8x8" speakers), and I can get pretty thunderous. I usually leave the bass (active Lakland 5 strings) EQ flat, and the amp EQ flat, except I roll of the bass knob back to about 10:30. I can get more beef by favoring the neck pup, and by plucking nearer the neck as well.

Anyway, assuming that there's no speaker damage, keep playing with the EQ. Start with everything flat, and try subtractive EQ. Most of what we hear as deep bass isn't in the 30 to 40 hz range, it's at least an octave higher than that.

Good luck.