Anger management and rig repair

[dbsfgyd1]

Behold the misdirected rage of an 8 year-old with a utility knife. While I'm not soliciting parenting advice (suffice it to say, the boy is still alive, but may be getting less for Christmas), I would like to know what kind of glue or healing salve could be used on the speaker. Will a dab of super glue do the trick? Also, any tips/advice on a good source for replacement grill cloth would be appreciated. Merry Christmas to all!

It’s good thing God makes them cute... the grill cloth you can probable get a an upolstery supply company. Years ago I managed to get 2 yards of Fender grill cloth at a a company that specialized in auto seat repair. I’m not sure who would want to sit on that, but had it they did.

I’m glad you amp wasn’t on and you child connected with something charged like a cap.

 

[Johnny StingRay]

Whatever the reason your son did this, that's your business, but as a teacher of children with emotional impairments, I'd turn this into a learning opportunity. I'd take the best suggestions from the knowledgeable TBers on this site and have your son work with you to do the repairs. He will come to appreciate the value of this equipment and that it is a means to your personal enjoyment. Who knows, maybe he will get an interest in learning the skills to repairing amps that he can channel his energy into a very successful career..........
If this was done intentionally, I'll leave the discipline (not punishment) up to you.

 

[Peteyboy]

He's got some skill with a knife, maybe med school.

 

[I am Soma]

dude you got a free relic job.

 

[Old Fart]

I've actually never seen the fingernail polish method fail, even years later. The rubberized stuff is perhaps better? Just do not add much additional mass. And don't overthink this. I mean...the speaker. The child warrants more thought.

 

[sonicblue62]

Pissed him off good, did ya?

Sleeping with one eye open lately?

His mom made him mad. I wasn't even home. Which made it seem all the more nonsensical for him to take out his anger on my gear.

 

[agedhorse]

(6) Vintage Speaker Cone Renovation and Repair without Re-Coning - YouTube

Terrible advice, wrong materials and unrelated to the OP’s speaker.

1. never ever use a silicone based product on a speaker, it can cause problems down the road if reconing is required. Many (most) adhesives are incompatible with silicone based products and thoroughly removing the residue can be very difficult. If the soft parts can’t bond to the basket, the recone will fail.

2. using contact cement on the surround is equally foolish, it is not the material that is used by manufacturers, and while the speaker the video shows is a pressed paper surround, no bass guitar speaker (including the OP’s driver) uses a paper surround. Contact cement can de-bond or damage the bonding of the cone edge to surround on some speakers, especially vintage speakers, that use a treated linen surround.

Much of what’s on the internet, even (or especially) when presented convincingly and sincerely, is very bad information. This video is a good example of why DIY repair attempts often go bad.

 

[31HZ]

In spite of the OP stating that he's not soliciting parenting advice, the info he needs comes at the cost of tolerating unsolicited rando parenting advice. From a lotta bass players.

Military school!

I regret posting a response that could have been interpreted as judgmental, as opposed to my intention of expressing genuine concern and a gesture of solidarity from one parent to another. Limitations of the medium, and all that.

 

[PillO]

Much of what’s on the internet, is very bad information.

Could have left it at that.

 

[pie_man_25]

one time I used bits of newspaper and elmer's white glue. But those were a couple of car subs that I got for 12 bucks. They still work just fine too.

 

[sonicblue62]

Thanks all, for the helpful hints, about the kid as well as the repair. I was pretty sure some parenting advice would follow, as it's sort of the natural, adult reaction to the wanton destruction of property (especially by someone else's kid). For the record, I love my son more than the gear, and I would be lying if I said I never broke stuff in a rage (although I thankfully never took it out on my dad's guitars or amps.) Today was a better day, and life goes on.

 

[SLPimp]

Thanks all, for the helpful hints, about the kid as well as the repair. I was pretty sure some parenting advice would follow, as it's sort of the natural, adult reaction to the wanton destruction of property (especially by someone else's kid). For the record, I love my son more than the gear, and I would be lying if I said I never broke stuff in a rage (although I thankfully never took it out on my dad's guitars or amps.) Today was a better day, and life goes on.

I apologize. I was joking and it wasn't helpful. I'd never suggest making a child part of the MIC.

 

[Redbrangus]

Thanks all, for the helpful hints, about the kid as well as the repair. I was pretty sure some parenting advice would follow, as it's sort of the natural, adult reaction to the wanton destruction of property (especially by someone else's kid). For the record, I love my son more than the gear, and I would be lying if I said I never broke stuff in a rage (although I thankfully never took it out on my dad's guitars or amps.) Today was a better day, and life goes on.

Well said.

 

[sedan_dad]

I always used Elmers and newspaper.

 

[Rabidhamster]

I have to admit it is REALLY REALLY satisfying to cut grille cloth and speakers with a utility knife. Usually best to wait til they’re totally worthless and in the garbage can, though.

Sorry that happened! As mentioned at length the speaker is a super easy repair though and done even remotely carefully you’ll never hear a difference.

The silver lining is now the grille cloth on the head and cab can match exactly eh?
Merry Christmas!

 

[sonicblue62]

I have to admit it is REALLY REALLY satisfying to cut grille cloth and speakers with a utility knife. Usually best to wait til they’re totally worthless and in the garbage can, though.

Sorry that happened! As mentioned at length the speaker is a super easy repair though and done even remotely carefully you’ll never hear a difference.

The silver lining is now the grille cloth on the head and cab can match exactly eh?
Merry Christmas!

True! It will be nice to have them match a little more.

 

[agedhorse]

Could have left it at that.

Why? This is an excellent practical example of WHY not to trust everything you see on the internet, and WHY it's bad it applies specifically to the OP's speaker, as it uses a treated linen surround.

 

[PillO]

Why? This is an excellent practical example of WHY not to trust everything you see on the internet, and WHY it's bad it applies specifically to the OP's speaker, as it uses a treated linen surround.

I am always very skeptical of information found on the internet. Source matters (I work in science; well refereed journal articles are everything).

 

[SLPimp]

Why? This is an excellent practical example of WHY not to trust everything you see on the internet, and WHY it's bad it applies specifically to the OP's speaker, as it uses a treated linen surround.

Thanks for the thorough explanation. People complain when you don't provide details and also when you do. But i always learn tons from your posts.

 

[SLPimp]

Thanks all, for the helpful hints, about the kid as well as the repair. I was pretty sure some parenting advice would follow, as it's sort of the natural, adult reaction to the wanton destruction of property (especially by someone else's kid). For the record, I love my son more than the gear, and I would be lying if I said I never broke stuff in a rage (although I thankfully never took it out on my dad's guitars or amps.) Today was a better day, and life goes on.

I have regretfully packed away or sold a lot that I don't get to use or can't wave around the house because of my son's endless....curiosity...