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Anyone bring their own amp mic to gigs?

Discussion in 'Live Sound [BG]' started by brobot, Sep 12, 2008.


  1. brobot

    brobot

    Jun 29, 2008
    Philly
    I was at a show last night and the bass rig was being mic'd by an SM57. It didn't sound that sweet to me, so it got me thinking about bringing my own mic to my gigs. Does anyone do this? If so, what's your mic of choice? (Also, are the sound guys cool with it?)

    Justin
     
  2. I use an EV condenser mic for micing my cabinet. I beleive that my speakers contrubute to my sound and I like to capture that fully.

    Paul
     
  3. RickenBoogie

    RickenBoogie

    Jul 22, 2007
    Dallas, TX
    I carry an SM57 as well as a Beta 58 in my gigbag at all times. It's that "be prepared" mentality.
     
  4. Hoss

    Hoss

    Jan 9, 2006
    Vienna, Austria
    I usually bring my MD421 with me. Fat bass AND fat mids. (contrary to some Kick-Drum mics which I absolutely dont like for Bass - id rather use an SM57 anytime...)
    I prefer the EV20 even a little more, cause it sounds clearer but I dont have my own yet.

    If the soundguy recommends me to rather use the DI of my amp, then its ok with me but ill never just let him DI my Bass only. My SVT is part of my sound - I do not schlep around that thing for stage sound only. :smug:
     
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  5. DanielleMuscato

    DanielleMuscato

    Jun 19, 2004
    Columbia, Missouri, USA
    Endorsing Artist, Schroeder Cabinets
    I like SM57s on bass cabs :bag: To answer your question, yes; I bring two SM57s just in case (although I've *never* had a Shure mic fail on me, knock on wood).

    I usually use my rig as a monitor for myself and feed the snake from my preamp. I use a Line6 Bass POD xt Live for all my tones, including amp, cab, and mic-on-cab modeling, and you get less set-up & tear-down hassle, no feedback, better signal-to-noise ratio, etc this way.
     
  6. Scottgun

    Scottgun

    Jan 24, 2004
    South Carolina
    Make sure you mark those mics and watch em like a hawk. I brought a Shure to gig and after the tear-down I collected all my stuff including the mic bag, went home. Later when I opened up the mic bag, it was not my Shure in the bag but some pos mic. Someone pulled the swaperoo on me.
     
  7. D.A.R.K.

    D.A.R.K. Supporting Member

    Aug 20, 2003
    Virginia
    i like to bring a beyer m88. nice tight low end, great clarity...
    also makes a great vocal mic.
     
  8. brobot

    brobot

    Jun 29, 2008
    Philly
    actually, i normally have no problem with a 57 and occasionally use them on my amp in the studio (although the Sennheiser MD421 and Audio-Technica 4047normally get the nod)... maybe it was sound of the rig. Either way, I think I'm going to start bringing the MD421 with me.

    Another thing - have any of you marked the ideal mic position on a speaker? I played with a touring band a few weeks back and they had tape on the guitar amps to show where they should be mic'd. I thought that was interesting.
     
  9. Just to take this one step further where do you point your mic? I usually go just a bit off center of the cone. (if I'm miced)
     
  10. DanielleMuscato

    DanielleMuscato

    Jun 19, 2004
    Columbia, Missouri, USA
    Endorsing Artist, Schroeder Cabinets
    My mics are engraved on the body, and also have a hidden engraving, in case somebody steals them and scratches out the visible one and I have to prove it's mine. I have something similar on my instruments and everything else that goes with me to gigs. :bassist:
     
  11. Bardley

    Bardley

    Nov 16, 2007
    Louisville, KY
    +1 to marking the mics
    Funny story, I used to work on the house tech crew for the venues at my college, Lee University. We had some mics walk off so they decided we needed to engrave "Property of Conn Center" on all of our mics. The two guys they tasked with this got creative on a few of the mics. My favorite was the SM57 that they engraved "Property of the Conn Center located in beautiful, historic downtown Cleveland, TN". It took up the whole side of the mic. The tech director was not happy... :D
     
  12. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    I don't fly with it, but when I play locally I bring a Heil PR 40 and a Z Bar. What's a Z Bar, you ask? Maybe this gratuitous posting of my new stage rig will answer:

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    When I fly, I usually have them use what's on hand or I'll just DI. Now that I got a VT pedal, DI'ing isn't as annoying to me as it used to be.

    BTW, the 57 and 58 may not be the world's greatest bass amp mics, but I've used them many times and always had a great sound in the PA.
     
  13. D.A.R.K.

    D.A.R.K. Supporting Member

    Aug 20, 2003
    Virginia
    on axis (pointed at the center/just off the center) yields the best highs,
    that's usually where i start for rock stuff(fuzz/delay effects etc.). if it's too bright for foh (usually never a problem) i'll turn the mic out toward the edge (off axis) before changing amp settings. if i'm doing something which relies on the horn, i'll position the mic off axis of the speaker, but turned toward the horn.
    i use a z-bar mount instead of a mic stand to save space, makes changing position easy....
     
  14. DanielleMuscato

    DanielleMuscato

    Jun 19, 2004
    Columbia, Missouri, USA
    Endorsing Artist, Schroeder Cabinets
    In all seriousness, Bardley, my "labels" have my toll-free number (forwards to my cell phone) and email address, in addition to my name. Saying just "Dave Muscato" or even "Property of Dave Muscato" or your band name, etc, doesn't make it easy to reunite item with owner unless you happen to be right there. This is especially true if you're on the road... you might be in another city by the time someone realizes it, and how are they going to reach you if they don't recognize your name as being with [x] band, or if they forget your band name? Sometimes things are just left behind, not stolen, and you want to make it as painless & quick as possible for legitimate finders to return your gear to you. Works me for me, anyway!

    +1, esp. the 57. I also have a Beta 57A but we usually stick that on the guitar amp.
     
  15. Chef

    Chef Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    May 23, 2004
    Columbia MO
    Staff Reviewer; Bass Gear Magazine
    Heck, I like the sm57 for bass cab mic'ing.
    Keep it about 4-5" from the cab, near the edege of a driver, at about a 45 degree angle...

    Heil mic: niccce. I was just reading a brochure on them.
    That's the same cat that ran Ye Olde Music Shoppe in Marissa Illinois back in the day, I bleeb. He was inventing all kinda net FOH stuff back in the 70's.
    If you rolled in there at the right time, you could score great deals on road gear from the likes of Allman Bros and many other national touring acts.
     
  16. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    Yep, Bob Heil.
     
  17. iNckTM

    iNckTM

    Sep 12, 2008
    Worksop,UK
    i borrowed off a friend a AKG D112 which is commonly a kick drum mic but it sounded pretty good on the rig i was using at the time. Either that or its a SM57 or a Beta58a but i don't tend to use the 58a for micing up
    or i just use the di on the amp
     
  18. AnalogPackrat

    AnalogPackrat

    May 20, 2008
    CA
     
  19. lm183902

    lm183902

    Aug 19, 2007
    Denver, CO
    The PR-40 actually is an end-fire mic. It's just disguised as a side address. It's also an amazing sounding mic for bass, I've found.
     
  20. AnalogPackrat

    AnalogPackrat

    May 20, 2008
    CA
    I stand corrected (and embarrassed!). My bad.

    Retract! Retract! :bag:
     

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