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Are 10'' monitors loud enough

Best monitors I've heard fitting your description were the QSC powered versions IIRC.
Never tried these but have a lot of Seismic gear here. Looks like they peeked at QSC's to make these.
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Not even anywhere near the speaker that the QSC are. If you know how to read a spec sheet you could see these are junk. The QSC K10 would be as loud as 4 of those boat anchors.
 
Buy once, cry once. I'm a firm believer in the "better to have too much than not enough" philosophy.

I also take this approach but have been regretting it at each load in for the past nearly two years since getting an 18" powered sub. For a bit more money I could have gotten a quality 12" that would be easily enough for what we do and I'd be lugging a box 2/3 the size and weight...if not less.

I'm also on the lookout for a couple of small wedges. They only need to carry vocals and acoustic guitar so they don't need to be very loud at all.
 
The Seismic's were a suggestion as everyone cannot afford the best on the planet like you appear to imply they should and you must, of course.

The OP mentioned "keep the price down" <<<< USER REQUIREMENT/Preference 1
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"stage volume is not too loud". <<<< USER REQUIREMENT/Preference 2
1 QSC price = 3-1/2 Seismics. QSC fails to give a sensitivity number, only "peak SPL" with a footnote referencing that it is not measured but from theoretical calculations. QSC's peak is one at which deafness is induced and blood flows from ears.

Spec reading?
Degree in BSEE, instrumentation and control systems for a multi-plant petrochem facility for 27 years, specified and evaluated over $10 million in instrumentation, control systems, environmental analyzers(GC's and BTU analyzers for EPA mandate for 7 plants), etc in the past 2 years. Like that southern band sang "I know a little".
Totally useless spec with a powered speaker. The amp is included in the cabinet so it isn't like you have a choice of amp size. BTW your job sounds a lot like the job of my former band leader. He didn't understand a speaker spec sheet either.:D The point is you would probably never use the QSC at maximum SPL but it is nice to have the headroom. The seismic has a peak of a 105db. If you figure crest factor then they might hit 100db on a good day. QSC has a 6 year warranty seismic 1 year. The QSC is lighter in weight. I also believe the qsc k series is over priced. If the OP is concerned about price then he should look at the Yamaha DBR10. Lighter than the seismic audio by 12 pounds, does 131db{measured not calculated} 7 year warranty and only $400.00.
 
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I just downsized my PA system to all 10's (+ 12" subs) I have a bad back & all the in/out was killing me... we have sacrificed a little bit of volume- but we make it work! I got a QSC Touchmix mixer - so we can give each member their own monitor mix. The real key is keeping an eye on stage volume... along with each member having their own monitor mix.

We now use:

2- EV ZXA-1 subs (46 lbs)- lightest powered sub in this price range that I'm aware of
2- Turbosound iQ10- tops (36lbs)
2- Mackie 350v3's for mons (23lbs)
4- JBL EON610's for mons (26lbs)- just got them thru GC extra bucks deal... will be paying $240.00 each- brand new

Even though the Mackies have a higher SPL rating- the Turbos seem to give a fuller sound! I would LOVE the QSC's - just too expensive for my budget :bored: ... we are 2- guitars, bass, drums- all four sing.

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My last band (two guitars, heavy hitting drummer) used QSC K10s as wedge monitors along front of stage. PLENTY loud. Holy crap those things rule.

Given that the OP has told us NOTHING useful as far as the band lineup, volume, and venues, my experience with the QSC and Yamaha monitors has been every bit as good as yours.

The point is moot if you're a string quartet, OP. ;)
 
Please keep your remarks civil. Posting rude and unhelpful remarks to the OP's questions re live sound here will get you warnings. Too many warnings and you get banned. To many temp bans lead to permabans. Just saying, because that is how it works.
 
2- EV ZXA-1 subs (46 lbs)
My two 400w 15" subs weigh 25 lbs each :p - the NU3000 amp is 6.6 lbs and I have a rack anyways :) . Last couple gigs I used 15 lb Behringer B208D's as tops - I could also use my RCF 310a's but keep those mostly for my larger PA.

Back on topic, my 10" coaxial monitors weigh 25 lbs each and are powered by an NU4-6000 four channel amp, 318 watts to each. I have 8 but only carry 4 these days usually.
 
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The Turbosound iQ series of powered speakers are no joke. Very good stuff in that price range. I just used those JBL Eons this past weekend, a pair mounted on tripods to handle vocals and direct bass for a small, but rockin', pub gig. They did the job no sweat. FWIW I commonly use a pair of passive 10" coaxial wedges for my full range bass rig in small venues, and they can handle a lot of power as long as you don't try to throttle them with sub frequencies (IOW, roll them off). Provided you're happy to have clarity and volume, 10" speakers can be just fine, depending on what you get. Frequency response below 100hz will likely be minimal, but will vary, again, depending on what speaker system you get.
 
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The Turbosound iQ series of powered speakers are no joke. Very good stuff in that price range. I just used those JBL Eons this past weekend, a pair mounted on tripods to handle vocals and direct bass for a small, but rockin', pub gig. They did the job no sweat. FWIW I commonly use a pair of passive 10" coaxial wedges for my full range bass rig in small venues, and they can handle a lot of power as long as you don't try to throttle them with sub frequencies (IOW, roll them off). Provided you're happy to have clarity and volume, 10" speakers can be just fine, depending on what you get. Frequency response below 100hz will likely be minimal, but will vary, again, depending on what speaker system you get.

Yup- good assessment... the EV powered subs I have - albeit small - give just enough for small to medium venues... larger that that - we hire sound!
 
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Hey Thor! Thanks. V/R, Mal

I run a pair of QSC K10's as side/face fills a lot. I usually have a very little kick and bass in them. clients / bands seem very happy. In my band, we use the K10's on sticks and a K12 or PRX612 on the keys. We'll add another on drummer boy if we have the space and its louder than usual.

We typically use k12's as mains and they handle kick and bass, no problem... As monitors they are very nice!
 
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I use an EON610 as my personal monitor, works fine for me. I do not run any of my bass through it (I have my amp on stage, if I was direct only I would want something beefier). I would think if a reasonable quality 10" active wedge is not cutting it, you need to address your band's stage volume (again, assuming you don't need to monitor your bass in it).

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Rob
 

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