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Are my tuning pegs wrong? (Backwards? left handed?)

So title. This is an Ibanez GSR200 that I got used recently and after I removed the strings for a deep cleaning on the fretboard, when restringing I realized that the tuning pegs are all wrong. The treble ones, thinnier for lighter gauges, are set on the bass side. Is this normal or did this bass get a wrong set of pegs during production? I tried changing it but the way the screws are done in the headstock makes it impossible to switch them.

I have a few pictures so you can see. I can get away with the first three strings, but a .105 gauge for the E just doesn't fit at all. I could make it work by cutting the string with very little slack and putting it in sideways into the hole, but I shouldn't be doing this.

Should I get new pegs? Or try lighter a lighter E string? I don't know if even .100 fits comfortably in there.

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I don't have a Gio, but I can say that all 6 of my Ibanez electric basses came with same size tuning machines, no matter which position they were installed on the headstock. But, I do have an Ibanez Acoustic Electric Bass Guitar which tuning machines were rather inconsistent in terms of sizes. I realized it when I was trying to swap the factory tuning machines with Japan Gotoh Res-O-Lite GB350s.

Other than the fact that one is an AEBG and the others are electric basses, the AEBG came from China factory whereas the other 6 were from Indonesia. I saw your Gio came from China factory which could explain the inconsistency of the tuning machines.

All things aside...

was the (new?) E string you were trying to install tapering after passing the nut and prior reaching the tuning post?

You may have gotten new strings which has longer winding length than your bass requires, especially the E string. It is advisable to get strings with correct winding length, hence the thick winding won't ever be wound on to the tuning post no matter how inconsistent the tuning machines were built.
 
was the (new?) E string you were trying to install tapering after passing the nut and prior reaching the tuning post?

You may have gotten new strings which has longer winding length than your bass requires, especially the E string. It is advisable to get strings with correct winding length, hence the thick winding won't ever be wound on to the tuning post no matter how inconsistent the tuning machines were built.

Hi, no, the thick winding from the E ends about halfway between the nut and the tuner peg, so I get the thinnier part of the string to go in it. Even then if I try to put it from a 90 degree angle it won't fit. The string is too thick for the peg.

Make sure that the tuning peg slot isn’t’ “pinched”at the top.
Never seen a bass that had pegs with different sized slots for the different strings.

You may be able to wedge it open with a flathead screwdiver.

I'm not entirely sure I understood what you mean correctly (I apologize, english is my second language). When you say pinched you mean like tightened? The width could be adjusted with a screwdiver? I only care about the E tuning peg since even the A peg does a tight fit for a 0.85 and I just took it, but .105 on the E peg is a lot of hassle
 
Hi, no, the thick winding from the E ends about halfway between the nut and the tuner peg, so I get the thinnier part of the string to go in it. Even then if I try to put it from a 90 degree angle it won't fit. The string is too thick for the peg.



I'm not entirely sure I understood what you mean correctly (I apologize, english is my second language). When you say pinched you mean like tightened? The width could be adjusted with a screwdiver? I only care about the E tuning peg since even the A peg does a tight fit for a 0.85 and I just took it, but .105 on the E peg is a lot of hassle
If something smashed the against the peg,the slot might have been mashed close.
Measure the bottom of the slot to see if it is the same as the top.

Here’s my peg.The slot is the same at the top and bottom.
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You might need to open the slot more.
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If something smashed the against the peg,the slot might have been mashed close.
Measure the bottom of the slot to see if it is the same as the top.

You might need to open the slot more.

Oh I got it now. Sadly no, size is the same and they don't look warped from a hit or anything.
Did measurements again and the D and G pegs are about 3mm wide. A and E are only 2mm wide...
 
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Make sure that the tuning peg slot isn’t’ “pinched”at the top.
Never seen a bass that had pegs with different sized slots for the different strings.

You may be able to wedge it open with a flathead screwdiver.
Exactly. Install them best you can on the headstock so they are stable. Gently spread the pinched ones with a big flat head screw driver.
I’m assuming you are sure you have the correct string length. If not, get that together first.
 
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