I have not posted on this group for a long time, but i feel that this needs to be said... not meant to offend "the excessive hours of preperation needed for the super marathon auditions these days only degrades quality, musicality, and can cause pain and injury." It is sad that in this day and age of orchestras folding and hard times in general that some orchestras are not able to find one person good enough to join their orchestra when an audition is held. In my opinion, holding an audition means that you are giving hope to many musicians who as a collective spend thousands of dollars both in travel expenses and lost work. This gives the orchestras the responibility as a vital piece of the musical community to make sure that their auditions are held responsibly. There are so many fantastic bassists these days, I can not believe that no one is good enough to win. Is there perhaps,maybe, possibly a problem with the audition process??? In my opinion, either the list is way too long and people are not able to prepare, the orchestras are not wanting to actually hire anyone, they are judging too strictly, or they want someone specific and want to be able to invite people to a special audition. I feel that a list of 7 orchestral selections (not whole works), 2 orchestral solos, and 1 or 2 solo works are absolutely good enough to tell how people play and whether they are good enough to be in any orchestra. I can say that I did not take this audition, and yet I am still posting this. Why should I put my neck on the line to write this? Why should I care? Because classical music is hurting. I do not like the direction things are going. We should be supportive of our fellow musicians during these hard times. I feel that every orchestra should have a policy that they are required to take someone at every audition. This would make the comittee take things seriously and actually create a list that is reasonable. Also it would make the money spent by the auditionees worth spending. I'm not sure that the people taking the time to decide on a list take enough time to really decide on a good list. When you ask for an excerpt, do not specify which edition especially if various editions have different... divisi or even completely different parts altogether, then have you really done your job to try and get the best player possible? If you ask for an unusual piece of music not usually asked for in an audition, then you SHOULD ask for it in your audition. Otherwise people waste a lot of their valuable time learning something which keeps them from preparing for the audition... common sense!!!! Otherwise what is the purpose? Again I do not mean to offend in any way. I just want to spread some common sense and support my fellow bassists. Let us choose to restore sanity in auditions.