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B7K Question...

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by mmbongo, Jan 16, 2014.


  1. mmbongo

    mmbongo Chicken Pot Pie. My three favorite things!!

    The recent B3K/Agro thread got me thinking that I could replace my B3K and my EQ pedal with one singular B7K.

    However, I would want the EQ on at all times and only have the overdrive portion switched on and off. Does the B7K work like that, or it is all on/all off?
     
  2. zwkoch

    zwkoch You can't do that on bass enthusiast Supporting Member

    Nov 29, 2012
    Twin Cities, MN
    It is all or nothing based on your drive and/or blend knob setting. You also could keep the drive at medium with a compressor in the front and lighter playing dynamics to prevent clipping until you want to unleash the beast. I need to look and see if the knobs are have enough space between them to enlarge the drive knob. This way, you could control it with your foot x-blender style.
     
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  4. All on or all off I'm afraid, but I'd love one with sweitchable dirt or a second channel.
     
  5. eveilleu

    eveilleu

    Oct 30, 2013
    Montreal, Qc
    Please correct me if I'm wrong.

    If the pedal is on, the EQ is on and it affects both clean and overdriven signal (I'm just assuming EQ happens first). When the pedal is off.. it's all off, no EQ, no OD

    It has a blend button, a level and a drive and the 2 switches just like the B3K.

    when drive is at 0, I think it's like if you had an EQ on, and a b3K off, blend does nothing and level acts simply like a volume.

    When you turn the drive nob CW (on) then it's like switching the B3K on.

    It would be nice to have 2 buttons you can't do what you're saying without bending over and turning a nob.


    http://www.darkglass.com/manuals/B7K-Manual.pdf
     
  6. gregmon79

    gregmon79 I did it for the muff... Supporting Member

    Dec 20, 2012
    Illinooooiiissssssssss
    I use my B7K as an always on clean preamp. No dirt dialed in at all. It works great that way. So yeah, if I get your question correctly, you can do what you're describing. If you ever want dirt dialed in though you'd have to just turn the drive knob up. Depending on where your blend is set.
     
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  7. gregmon79

    gregmon79 I did it for the muff... Supporting Member

    Dec 20, 2012
    Illinooooiiissssssssss

    The blend does something for sure even when drive is fully CCW
     
  8. mmbongo

    mmbongo Chicken Pot Pie. My three favorite things!!

    Darn. Is there a similar pedal that can keep the EQ activated while being able to turn on/off the drive?
     
  9. zwkoch

    zwkoch You can't do that on bass enthusiast Supporting Member

    Nov 29, 2012
    Twin Cities, MN
    You could use two presets with identical EQ on the SansAmp deluxe pedals. The Verellen MS Pre has two channels as well. You could also use the Brimstone Crossover Distortion for two settings as well. Check out the XD-1 thread or drop me a line if you had any questions about it.
     
  10. jumblemind

    jumblemind I also answer to Bryan Supporting Member

    Aug 27, 2011
    Knoxville
    Aguilar Tone Hammer and MXR M80. Of course, both have very particular drive flavors that may not be appealing. There's also the JHS Pandamonium, though the second channel is fuzz.

    Not exactly multi band EQ, but the Myco Three could work this way.

    Or you could throw a bunch of money and niceties at JohnK and get just what you want hand-built.
     
  11. Darkglass

    Darkglass Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member Commercial User

    Dec 10, 2008
    Helsinki, Finland
    Douglas Castro, Founder: darkglass.com
    Not really my friend. EQ is after the drive section. Turning the Drive knob to minimum will just make the Microtubes circuitry distort less (it can get super clean depending on your bass' output though).

    You can use the B7K as a clean EQ/Preamp/DI by turning the Blend knob fully CCW which leaves your signal directly into the EQ and Output section.

    Regards,
    D.
     
  12. jumblemind

    jumblemind I also answer to Bryan Supporting Member

    Aug 27, 2011
    Knoxville
    Oooooh. Can one surmise that the Vintage will be laid out the same way?
     
  13. Darkglass

    Darkglass Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member Commercial User

    Dec 10, 2008
    Helsinki, Finland
    Douglas Castro, Founder: darkglass.com
    Yes ;).
     
  14. Guinness20

    Guinness20

    Jan 24, 2013
    Liverpool, UK
    Not cheap, but maybe grab both the b3k And b7k - run the b7k as an always-on clean preamp, then when you want od stamp on the b3k. Just my two pennies' worth :)
     
  15. eveilleu

    eveilleu

    Oct 30, 2013
    Montreal, Qc
    Ohhhhhh!! that makes much more sense!

    I'm assuming I had the feeling that blend did nothing when drive was at zero is because I was playing softly and level was set at unity with the off switch?

    Thanks!!


    or a Nolly Signature Dingwall and a B3K ? :)

    I'm sorry, I just saw a pic of a green Dingwall on on facebook and drooled all over my keyboard.. can't think...
     
  16. frankthetank727

    frankthetank727

    Jul 7, 2011
    Ok so I was actually looking into doing something like this and I wanted to ask something. I already have a pedal I use when I need full on distortion, but I wanted to replace my MXR 10 Band EQ. I used the EQ section on both my amp head and the MXR right now, but everyone has said such great things about the B7K, so I was wondering, can I use the B7K to basically replace the MXR and use it is a clean EQ/preamp boost and tone shaping pedal in my pedal board before it hits the amp head tone controls and such? Also would using a bit of dirt on the B7K conflict with the distortion pedal I use when both pedals are enabled? I'm using a tech 21 Red Ripper for distortion. I've also got an Empress compressor in my chain too.
     
  17. Mosfed

    Mosfed Gold Supporting Member Commercial User

    Apr 21, 2013
    Mont Blanc
    Partner - CCP Pedals
    Yes you can. But it has a baked in tone so you may like it more or less than your MXR
     
  18. RockDoc

    RockDoc

    Jan 5, 2007
    And be sure to investigate the soon-to-be-available B7K Ultra, which can do (I think) what the OP was seeking.
     
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  19. gregmon79

    gregmon79 I did it for the muff... Supporting Member

    Dec 20, 2012
    Illinooooiiissssssssss
    @frankthetank727, you can totally replace the MXR with the B7K. But as rockdoc stated, you may want to give it a couple months and wait for the ultra. It'll have even more EQ to help you along.

    I can't say I know all the EQ points of both the MXR and the B7K, but the MXR may or may not have a little more tweakability to offer. I'm really not sure though. They could be about even for all know. But the B7K does indeed have a baked in flavor. I think the MXR would be more vanilla or maybe ever transparent. Again, not sure. I've never worked with it. My guitarist just got one of those and he engages it when he needs a little boost in certain areas when he's using a certain fuzz.

    But anyway, for what you want it for, IMO, the B7K would be grand for it. It has a flavor and I for one love it. It's the basis of my overall tone. It can and will give you EQ, tone shaping, voicing options, drive if you want/need it, boost, and it adds clarity and dimension to your overall sound and tone especially with your dirt pedals. To me, it's ideal. But it's not for everyone. It's also not an all inclusive metal machine. The EQ is really quite versatile. You add the voicing switches, and you have yourself a mighty versatile and broad ranged EQ/preamp. It is capable of doing vintage bass tones to prog to blues to metal and all in between.

    There are so many sounds in this box alone it's nuts. I'm very excited for the ultra too. I can hopefully snag one in the spring. It's gonna be sweet!!!
     
  20. Look at me, ahead of the game, but unable to spell properly haha
     
  21. Mosfed

    Mosfed Gold Supporting Member Commercial User

    Apr 21, 2013
    Mont Blanc
    Partner - CCP Pedals
    It will be interesting to see where the baked in tone comes from in the B7k ultra. Like - is it the drive? Or the EQ? Or what? Can the ultra get totally clean and transparent and then you can kick in DG goodness? That would be the cream dream...