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Basic PA Questions

Discussion in 'Live Sound [BG]' started by Kickstand13, May 6, 2010.

  1. Kickstand13


    May 5, 2010
    Hey Im not sure if this is the right forum for this but here it goes:
    I play almost exclusively in churches and venues where we try to keep stage volume to an absolute minimum, all in-ear monitors etc. I have been going direct into a DI up to now but I need to begin to seriously work on my sound so I am wondering if anyone has any suggestions. The guys at GC pointed me towards a SansAmp RBI or Bass DI, any other suggestions/opinions?
  2. I have a SansAmp Bass DI and get good tone from it. Works as advertised. To be honest, I don't use it much, but when I have to go direct without a stage amp, it is just the ticket.
  3. zepolishbassist


    Apr 17, 2009
    The Ultrafive preamp, Avalon makes it.
  4. Mo'Phat

    Mo'Phat Supporting Member

    Oct 1, 2003
    San Diego, CA, USA
    Really, any sort of tube preamp or maybe an EQ or compressor pedal will help shape your sound before the DI.

    The SansAmp BDDI is tried and true.
    MXR M-80 is a favorite.
    Tech21 VT Bass is an up and comer.

    Even something designed for microphones could work out well, like the Presonus TubePre.

    When you say "I need to begin to seriously work on my sound"...what about your sound do you not like?
  5. MNAirHead

    MNAirHead Supporting Member

    For low cost and proven sound a MXR M-80 + IEM is very acceptable... many sound guys do not like tone shaped DI

  6. Weshunter413


    May 6, 2009
    Hickory NC
    I agree with the M-80 MXR DI. I play in my church as well in the same way you discribed and the M-80 works wonders.

    P.S. I've had the sansamp DI and it was good but I still prefer the MXR.
  7. IvanMike

    IvanMike Player Characters fear me... Supporting Member

    Nov 10, 2002
    Middletown CT, USA
    Avalon U5. really.
  8. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    Indeed, if the resources are there.

    If you end up going SansAmp, get the ParaDriver DI rather than the Bass Driver DI. It's much more versatile, with its semi-parametric mid and all.
  9. TL5


    Jun 27, 2005
    I'm DI with IEM's the majority of the time.

    I use the Sansamp VT bass into the supplied DI, like this:

    The back-up is the MXR M80 bass DI.
    I'm comfortable with either one.

    I've used modelers as well, even the cheapie, Digitech BP50
  10. Mo'Phat

    Mo'Phat Supporting Member

    Oct 1, 2003
    San Diego, CA, USA
    I'm chuckling at the Easy Button....mute switch?
  11. philter25


    Mar 26, 2010
    Germantown, MD
    What about your sound are you looking to improve? And the good thing about GC is you can bring your bass, maybe they have the amp you have in stock, and you can play with all the pedals.

    I went with the programmable sansamp. I have 4 sounds with my bass, bypassed direct to the amp which is a lower acoustic type volume, then tube amp clean, then SVT with a little grunt, then distorted bass. Those 4 settings let me cover any type of music I want. For small venues, I can go right into the PA. Setup takes all of 2 minutes.

    For church, any of the suggested preamps (sansamp, VT, U5, MXR) would work and be able to shape your sound a little better than the stock sound from the bass.

    Best thing to do would be go to GC and try them all out and see which one you like best.
  12. Floyd Eye

    Floyd Eye Banned

    Feb 21, 2010
    St. Louis
    Get the RBI.;)
  13. mkandolf


    Nov 21, 2007
    Saint Clair, MI
    +1 on the SansAmp ParaDriver DI! I love mine! Very versatile tone shaper. It's the one pedal I won't be without.
  14. fdeeptone


    Mar 26, 2009
    Newark Ohio
    If your happy with the tone coming from your bass cab you can always mic the cab and
    skip the DI. I never cared for DI much myself. even if i use my mxr or my sansamp pedal
    I still prefer to have my amp miked if someone is running sound. Just my preference.
    I like to know the sound i am getting on stage from my cabs is the same sound thats going thru the pa.

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