Bass of doom

[Ray Matthews]

Totally... Play a Fender, and then play an Ibanez SR 300. Everything will become as clear as daylight to all bass players with half a ton of iron on the end if their fretboard!!!

 

[Mr_O'B]

A lot of people unconsciously compensate for neck dive.
And don't know it was a problem until they play a bass that doesn't dive.

I never thought about neckdive until I purchased a bass online that was extremely heavy with neckdive.

Took me a while to figure out that the heavy bass (approx. 10 lbs. +) with neckdive was causing my neck to swell up (blood flow issues in my neck).

P.S. - The body was heavy Northern Ash, and the neck was also very heavy.
The bass sounded like an active bass because of the Northern Ash body and heavy neck.

 

[JGbassman]

I love the vintage reverse tuners. I have one of the Jaco Tribute Jazz Basses with them. I've never noticed any kind of increased weight... feels perfectly comfortable to me, sitting or standing.

Same here. I have a set of the same tuners on a '55 replica p bass and it doesn't seem to cause any issues either.

 

[Mr_O'B]

Same here. I have a set of the same tuners on a '55 replica p bass and it doesn't seem to cause any issues either.

Identical models don't necessarily weigh the same. I had a guy at the GC weigh 4 and 5 string Fender American Deluxe Ash body j-basses.
The 4 string balanced perfectly and weighed less than 9 lbs.

The 5 string was over 10 lbs. and had major neckdive. I could tell that the weight of the neck was much heavier than the body. I don't think the tuners played a factor in the five string neckdiving. The maple\ash neck was too darn heavy for the body!

 

[JGbassman]

Identical models don't necessarily weigh the same. I had a guy at the GC weigh 4 and 5 string Fender American Deluxe Ash body j-basses.
The 4 string balanced perfectly and weighed less than 9 lbs.

The 5 string was over 10 lbs. and had major neckdive. I could tell that the weight of the neck was much heavier than the body. I don't think the tuners played a factor in the five string neckdiving. The maple\ash neck was too darn heavy for the body!

I was referring to a jaco sig jazz, id assume they would be pretty close to his jaco sig. I use a 2" strap and it doesn't dive on me. Im sure there are a few differences but they should be pretty close. I did put a set of 70's tuners on a bass with cheaper smaller tuners and I noticed a little weight difference, but it was offset by the smoother tuning and its ability to hold a tune better. Every bass is different like you said though.

 

[Norwegian Bass]

The vintage reverse tuners are actually quite light. And the "clover" on those are smaller than the later 70s tuners for instance. I have them on my AV '63 P, and they work great. I'll not change mine.

 

[Mr_O'B]

I was referring to a jaco sig jazz, id assume they would be pretty close to his jaco sig. I use a 2" strap and it doesn't dive on me. Im sure there are a few differences but they should be pretty close. I did put a set of 70's tuners on a bass with cheaper smaller tuners and I noticed a little weight difference, but it was offset by the smoother tuning and its ability to hold a tune better. Every bass is different like you said though.

We have to agree to disagree. The Fender Marcus Miller Signature has weights all over the place. Just because your bass is a Jaco Signature that does not assure a consistency in weights. I would bet that the electronics and hardware are more consistent than the weights.

 

[Lownote38]

Totally... Play a Fender, and then play an Ibanez SR 300. Everything will become as clear as daylight to all bass players with half a ton of iron on the end if their fretboard!!!

I've done that, and due to the shape of the neck, stuck with Fender.

 

[jaybones]

Is epoxy that heavy? I never thought of that !

If you've ever worked with it in large quantities you'd know!

James jamerson had no problem playing with a huge string action, doesn't mean everyone else wants to!

I will add that James Jamerson played bass with one finger, but doesn't mean it's the most efficient way to play a bass!

I thought he played with his thumb. And in the studio played lying flat on his back.

 

[Mr_O'B]

If you've ever worked with it in large quantities you'd know!





I thought he played with his thumb. And in the studio played lying flat on his back.

No, he played with his right index finger.

Whether or not you are making a joke, the man could play lying on back while intoxicated. Someone mentioned that he did it one time, so we should not imply that be played on his back more than once.

 

[Pocket Man]

You're probably right about Jaco not caring. However, Jaco probably didn't care about a lot of
things that he should have cared about.

A lot of people don't, but some of us do, and no one is wrong!

So Jaco cared enough about one thing. Taking bass to a place you can only dream about. For that he will always be a legend. And you... a 3rd rate critic!