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Bass pedal chain advice.

#21
I'd put the compressor first, to give the chain and the Pitch shiftier a stable signal. But if I were to put the Compressor at the end of the signal to treat before before the amp, it would still be before the delay. It's a digital delay, so giving the it a good level can keep it clean. I wouldn't put the compressor after a delay, because it would just serve to bring up the repeats, which the delay can set for you.

I wouldn't put a compressor after a drive, because distortion compresses anyway.

Eq can go before or after a drive. Before a drive it allow you to direct which frequencies are driven, changes the tonal qualities of the drive. After the drive allows you to tidy up the effect. So it kinda of depends on the attributes of the drive.

Drive before chorus give the chorus more to move, drive after chorus give a gritty chorus.

Comp>Pitch>EQ>Drive>Chorus>Delay
Comp>Pitch>Drive>EQ>Chorus>Delay
 
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#22
I should have made it clear that I am passing these pedals through a Roland Quad Capture into a MacBook Pro for home recording only.
I am not currently using the pedals for live music in a band or the like.

Would it make any difference to the order?
 
#23
There's case then for putting the compressor before the Quad's (I use a Quad too) digital converters, but I'd still but the compressor before the Delays digital converters too, and the delay isn't going to create any problematic transients. But the quad D/A converters have some good headroom, and the compressor at the start of the chain should have leveled things out a bit (the distortion too) So i'd be tempted to keep it at he start.
 
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La Faro said:
Comp>Pitch>EQ>Drive>Chorus>Delay
Comp>Pitch>Drive>EQ>Chorus>Delay
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These make the most sense to me...but that's for me. Looks like a nice, clean signal...everything should track and sound great. Compressore first should make the whole thing sound nice and fat. Best thing to do is keep shuffling the deck til you draw that ace. Experiment a bit and see what sounds best to/for you.
 
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Nicholas Smith said:
Damage pedals? How could that happen? Because of movement? Or?
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When you stomp one all the movement is absorbed by the jack and then spread to the other pedals. Cables allow the movement to be isolated to each pedal.

There's a lot of ways you can go with some of these, but I have a few basic rules.

Pitch shift should go first unless you have something specific you're trying to do with it.

Distortion creates a more pronounced effect after chorus than before. Is you want big noise, distortion goes after. If you want subtle chorusing of a distorted signal chorus goes after.

Generally delay goes at the end, unless you have a very specific thing you want done to the delayed signal (you'd have to experiment).

Compressor should go at the beginning if you're trying to create a more consistent signal for the rest of your chain, and at the end if you're trying to tame the craziness of your chain.

EQ can go anywhere, IMO.

Break these rules at your leisure, but they create a basic outline of what to expect from the effects you're using.
 
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The overdrive pedal is ok where it is, but often suffers in intense rage. I adore a massive distortion sound on bass. It’s hard enough to know how to use the pedals well to generate the right sounds let alone chaining them in a great order.


cheapbasslovin said:
When you stomp one all the movement is absorbed by the jack and then spread to the other pedals. Cables allow the movement to be isolated to each pedal.

There's a lot of ways you can go with some of these, but I have a few basic rules.

Pitch shift should go first unless you have something specific you're trying to do with it.

Distortion creates a more pronounced effect after chorus than before. Is you want big noise, distortion goes after. If you want subtle chorusing of a distorted signal chorus goes after.

Generally delay goes at the end, unless you have a very specific thing you want done to the delayed signal (you'd have to experiment).

Compressor should go at the beginning if you're trying to create a more consistent signal for the rest of your chain, and at the end if you're trying to tame the craziness of your chain.

EQ can go anywhere, IMO.

Break these rules at your leisure, but they create a basic outline of what to expect from the effects you're using.
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#30
No matter how many variations we can throw at you, you really just need to take some time and experiment with your order. It's a very personal choice for most things. I personally choose to put my compressor up front - I don't want it affecting any choices I make with the effects. And I would tend to agree with the train of thought of putting the pitch bender before effects for the same reasons described by the poster above.

After that, it's just a matter of playing with the order. It just depends on what you are looking for and since you're just using them for personal recording, you may find that you want them in one order for one tune, but another for the next one : overdriven chorus will have different sound than a chorus overdrive. Neither is right or wrong, just different.

And +1 to losing those jack-to-jack connectors. I have read that they will damage your jacks after a while. Every stomp moves the peddle a tad and in turn transfers that movement to the next pedal (possibly further down the chain) and you risk damage to the pedals. It's a long term thing, but still, you want to protect your investment.
 
#31
Typically the walls of die cast pedals aren't exactly 90 degrees, probably to help them out of the molds. so when a number are chained together you'll see them form a slight curve. Every press is fatiguing the pedal next. When on carpet or the cardboard your's are on, they have lost of movement, which is not good. when attached to a pedal board they are all forced flat, pressing on the jack sockets.

It's a shame, because it's otherwise a tidy solution.
 
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iTzPrime said:
For me it would be this:
Pitch -> Drive -> Compressor -> Chorus -> EQ-> Delay
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I would do this but switch the compressor and drive.

Take a look at mine

 
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crguti said:
I would order the pedal as: pitch (works better in the beginning for better tracking), drive, eq (to fine tune the drive), chorus (the effect is more obvious after drive), compressor (to adjust dynamics after your main tone), delay (you don’t want anything affecting the trails)
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look how he has his eq set! that would sound horrible after his drive pedal... all fuzz. definitely that eq must be before the drive pedal to change the tone how he likes it now.

the drive pedal has it's own tone control to adjust it's output when engaged...

UPDATE: That being said, he seems to have eq AFTER drive currently, so maybe I'm out to lunch based on what he likes? LoL
 
#39
Two things:
1) Let me be the 1,00th person to say that the pitch fork should be early in the chain.

2) The EQ setting you have there - I can't imagine using that setting on bass (looks like it'd be awful thin sounding) - I wonder if you bumped some controls before taking the picture?
 

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