• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join freeLog in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

bass player influence history linking...(for fun, I guess)

I was wondering........can you guys link some bassists to other bassists...the ones that are clearly influenced by another bassist that was clearly influenced by another bassist that was influenced ...and so on until..influenced by an innovator...get what I mean?

I just wanna see some opinions towards who was influenced by who and so on...

and honestly, I'm too nervous to set the example, but it'd be like a family tree linking or something like that....
 
Originally posted by TRIPP_DOGGY_DOGG
I would say that from Peter Tork bass things evolved to Danny Partrige. Don't forget that Greg Brady was one of the most influential guitarists of the 70's. Nope, can't forget that guy.

I'd bet Tommy Tedesco played all of Greg Brady's stuff :)

For guys that really didn't play a lot of bass, Tork and Partridge influenced a lot of people to pick up the instrument. FWIW, Peter is a sharp vocalist, guitarist, and pianist in real life. This can be seen at current Monkees shows or with his own band, Shoe Suede Blues.

I think a reasonable line of influence is James Jamerson > Anthony Jackson > Melvin Lee Davis.
 
Allmusic.com has a tree of key electric bass players - can't say I particularly agree with it, but here you go:

Electric Bass Pioneers

Monk Montgomery (electric bass with Lionel Hampton in 1953)

|

Electric Bass Innovator

Jaco Pastorius

|

Key Electric Bassists

Stanley Clarke; Steve Swallow; Eberhard Weber; John Patitucci; Tyrone Brown (with Max Roach since 1984); Jamaaladeen Tacuma; Albert MacDowell; Alphonso Johnson; Mark Egan; Victor Bailey; Brian Bromberg; Marcus Miller; Gerald Veasley; Bill Laswell; Bob Cranshaw (with Sonny Rollins)
 
I think in Metallica's Ride the Lightning, the credit Rush as an influence. Rush was heavily influenced by Led Zeppelin. From a JPJ website, his primary influences were: Charlie Mingus, Ray Brown, and Scott LeFaro. He said he didn't have any rock influences because you couldn't hear bass on rock records in the early sixties.
 
Originally posted by Gabu
From a JPJ website, his primary influences were: Charlie Mingus, Ray Brown, and Scott LeFaro. He said he didn't have any rock influences because you couldn't here bass on rock records in the early sixties.

In the interviews with him that I have read, JPJ always' rates James Jamerson as a major influence as well. JPJ reckons that his success as a session player in the '60s was down to the fact that he was the only player on the scene able to take a chord sheet and quickly come up with a bassline that had that Jamerson-Motown feeling.
 
Originally posted by Woodchuck
Carol Kaye played all of Peter Tork's lines.

Being the fountain of useless knowledge that I am, I recall that the credits on at least the "Monkees' Headquarters", album listed the great Joe Osborne on bass. (Check out the song, "You Just May be the One"; great bass riff)Its possible that Carol Kaye played on the first few Monkees' singles, but she's been found to have lots of questionable recollections on what sessions she played on in the 1960's.
 
I have the Headquarters cd in my hands...these Monkees' re-issues have very extensive liner notes.
Anyway, Chip Douglas(NOT the cat from My Three Sons) is the bassist on this record, though John London is credited with "The Girl I knew Somewhere" & "All Off Your Toys".
IMO, tha bass' tone & 'feel' on this disc really smacks of McCartney.

Headquarters, the Monkess' 3rd album, was a rebellion of sorts against the production machine of Don Kirshner. On this album, the Monkees insisted on playing their own instruments.
Gotta give 'em credit...they did the album in 3 months(considered a long time back then) & Mickey hadda learn how to play drums.
;)

Kaye may have played on the Kirshner material.