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Bass preamp in regular guitar?
- Thread starter Luckie
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I don't know whether or not you would like the frequency bands, and the coloration of the preamp, if it's not transparent.
If you want a low impedance output, or a gain boost, you might consider a gain boosting buffer.
If you want a low impedance output, or a gain boost, you might consider a gain boosting buffer.
It basically just lowers the output impedance of your guitar. No EQ or anything like that, just boosts the signal. Rather handy for driving a long cable.
A buffer circuit would lower your output impedance.
You can design it to boost your gain, as well, if you want it to.
You can design it to boost your gain, as well, if you want it to.
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I use the basslines blackout 2band in my bc rich eagle guitar. Excellent tonal range. I use the same reble setting of 6k as I do in my bass with it. It does 3 things for the sound. 1. Converts to lowZ giving the same sound advantages of lowz. Tighter bass, more detail to the sound lows thru highs. 2. Boost the signal so sustain is quite nicely increased and j harmonics come super easy with no harshness. 3. Gives much more musical tone shaping then the std passive tone control. Both bass boost and cut work well as well as treble boost and cut. Treble boost avoids harhness to imo. I Use bc rich bdsm bridge pup and emg h1 neck pup. The emg h1 isnt quite as hot as the bc rich bdsm neck and gives a more trad 70's overdriven very articulate and crunchy tone. Combined with the bc rich bdsm bridge pup I can go from more trad crunchy rock to metal no problem and all inbetween. I musicalness of the basslines blackout works very well for better tone shaping with electric guitar to me and is much better then the competition guitar preamps imo.
By boosting bass a little & cutting treble a little I can get thicker bridge pup sound or really thick neck pup sound. By boosting treble just a little and backing off the bass for neck pup I can get a more balanced bridge pup sound that avoids the overly trebly to me sound one normally gets from soloing the bridge pup.
Simple nothing fancy soundtest vid here: Link Removed The soundtest one. Eagle guitar with basslines blackout preamp and warlock bass with same preamp. Bass is just adding groove nothing fancy. Guitar mainly rythmic thing. Again nothing fancy.
The preamps signal boost also works better then the emg afterburner I had in a previous jackson guitar for both sound detail and sustain as well as further driving overdrive/distortion effects. Similair to stacking 2 marshall govner or proco rats into each other actually.
Added pic. controls are: neck vol, 3way pup selector, bridge volume, basslines blackout 2band eq with stacked bass/treble.
By boosting bass a little & cutting treble a little I can get thicker bridge pup sound or really thick neck pup sound. By boosting treble just a little and backing off the bass for neck pup I can get a more balanced bridge pup sound that avoids the overly trebly to me sound one normally gets from soloing the bridge pup.
Simple nothing fancy soundtest vid here: Link Removed The soundtest one. Eagle guitar with basslines blackout preamp and warlock bass with same preamp. Bass is just adding groove nothing fancy. Guitar mainly rythmic thing. Again nothing fancy.
The preamps signal boost also works better then the emg afterburner I had in a previous jackson guitar for both sound detail and sustain as well as further driving overdrive/distortion effects. Similair to stacking 2 marshall govner or proco rats into each other actually.
Added pic. controls are: neck vol, 3way pup selector, bridge volume, basslines blackout 2band eq with stacked bass/treble.
darkstorm: no disrespect meant but all I could hear was drums and some fizzy and thin-sounding guitar. Am I listening to the right track? My speakers aren't the greatest but I can hear other music just fine usually.
Luckie: My experience with this is that it doesn't really work very well. Bass frequencies are too low and treble frequencies are too high. If you had something with the bass centered around 100 Hz and the treble between 1-3 kHz, that might work better than what I tried (40 Hz and 4 kHz). But the resultant I got was a muddy sound with a lot of hiss and fret noise.
Luckie: My experience with this is that it doesn't really work very well. Bass frequencies are too low and treble frequencies are too high. If you had something with the bass centered around 100 Hz and the treble between 1-3 kHz, that might work better than what I tried (40 Hz and 4 kHz). But the resultant I got was a muddy sound with a lot of hiss and fret noise.
NKUSigEp...> Does sound better with good headphones but yeah is first attempt at doing a audio thing online. Ended up doing slideshow instead of the vid that went with cause somehow the vid had more detrimental effect on the sound. Still waiting for a freind back home to send me copy of my 2 mini cd's from yrs ago with better music. But lost my copies when motherboard went kapoot about a yr ago. Hopefully have better audio with newer stuff like for next attempt. Did this soundtest thing shortly after installing preamp in the guitar. CD copy off laptop comes out fine, but transfer to myspace vid came out a bit thin sounding.
So could I just adjust the frequency of the bands?
Also, would working at those higher frequencies make for a noisier preamp?
Also, would working at those higher frequencies make for a noisier preamp?
Yes you can select treble freqs center if your preamp has that ability. The basslines blackout gives 2 treble freq choices. I find that boosting the bass control is more apt to produce some background hiss with high gain overdrive. rather then the treble control being boosted with mine. Of course you can expect some background hiss with high gain anyway and thats what the processors noise gate is for. But yes, preamp that boosts signal is gonna make noise gate more desireable.
some carvin electrics come with a two-band active EQ.
i assume it's tuned for guitar (like the bass knob being pitched higher up to cover the guitar's lows instead of a bass's lows), but it didn't really make sense to me as a player.
at least with an EQ pedal on the floor, that weirdly artificial "equalized" tone could be kicked on and off as an effect.
i assume it's tuned for guitar (like the bass knob being pitched higher up to cover the guitar's lows instead of a bass's lows), but it didn't really make sense to me as a player.
at least with an EQ pedal on the floor, that weirdly artificial "equalized" tone could be kicked on and off as an effect.
