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Beginner Advice Needed

I totally agree with the above. OP: In the meantime here is a useful link (see below) for getting started. While it's very exciting and enjoyable sussing out amps, cabs, strings etc., don't neglect to also suss out safe technique. Starting off from ground zero with good habits will save you time in not having to unlearn any bad ones later. Safe technique is touched on in the link.

Best of luck...and welcome to the low end. :bassist:

How to get started?
Thank you!
 
Cool that you play the piano! My favorite bassist plays bass like a Pianist would do with the left hand :)
Go to a store and play some basses and decide what you like. The used market is a very good place too. It's always better to buy a 300$-500$ Bass used than a 200$ new one. If you can find one take a look at a Marcus Miller V7 or P7. Very good feeling instruments due to the rolled fingerboard edges and you can switch from active to passive.
 
Cool that you play the piano! My favorite bassist plays bass like a Pianist would do with the left hand :)
Go to a store and play some basses and decide what you like. The used market is a very good place too. It's always better to buy a 300$-500$ Bass used than a 200$ new one. If you can find one take a look at a Marcus Miller V7 or P7. Very good feeling instruments due to the rolled fingerboard edges and you can switch from active to passive.
Thanks for answering! I don't actually play the piano haha XD Just played a bit a year ago. Sadly not many used options are available :(
Do you mean the Sire V7?
 
Thanks for answering! I don't actually play the piano haha XD Just played a bit a year ago. Sadly not many used options are available :(
Do you mean the Sire V7?
Yeah. I'm as old as you and I played a short scale for a while... Then I bought my Sire V7 and the transition from a shortscale bass to a longscale bass was pretty easy. The neck is very slim, the nut width is 38mm so it's very playable. Great for younger people too. I think feel is very important and that's why I would recommend it.
 
Yeah. I'm as old as you and I played a short scale for a while... Then I bought my Sire V7 and the transition from a shortscale bass to a longscale bass was pretty easy. The neck is very slim, the nut width is 38mm so it's very playable. Great for younger people too. I think feel is very important and that's why I would recommend it.
I see. Thank you! Problem is it's about 700$... and I never even played yet haha XD
 
I'm excited for you. My 16yo daughter just picked up the bass this year and she loves it.

I like the Ray4. I almost grabbed one for myself earlier this year. But I agree that you should try them out before you buy, and when you find one you bond with, buy that one.

Amps: a single 8" speaker doesn't sound like a bass to me, but I know others feel differently. Like the bass itself, it's best to try it out. It's part of your sound—truly, it's what you hear when you play your bass—so it deserves a degree of careful consideration. I love the GK 10" practice amps, personally.

And lessons? I think that's a completely valid route to go. I also think it's valid to just seek out instructional videos online and hash it out yourself. My daughter—the bass player—wants to dye her hair pink. My wife was looking into all these ways to get it done professionally (and expensively) so she doesn't screw it up, but my girl was definitely into the punk idea of doing it herself, making a mess, possibly screwing it up. And that's cool, too. Same with the lessons/no lessons question; whichever direction fuels your passion is the way to go.
 
I'm excited for you. My 16yo daughter just picked up the bass this year and she loves it.

I like the Ray4. I almost grabbed one for myself earlier this year. But I agree that you should try them out before you buy, and when you find one you bond with, buy that one.

Amps: a single 8" speaker doesn't sound like a bass to me, but I know others feel differently. Like the bass itself, it's best to try it out. It's part of your sound—truly, it's what you hear when you play your bass—so it deserves a degree of careful consideration. I love the GK 10" practice amps, personally.

And lessons? I think that's a completely valid route to go. I also think it's valid to just seek out instructional videos online and hash it out yourself. My daughter—the bass player—wants to dye her hair pink. My wife was looking into all these ways to get it done professionally (and expensively) so she doesn't screw it up, but my girl was definitely into the punk idea of doing it herself, making a mess, possibly screwing it up. And that's cool, too. Same with the lessons/no lessons question; whichever direction fuels your passion is the way to go.
Thank you for your answer! I guess I can ask in the store both an 8" and 10" speaker, even though I won't buy one at the store I'm buying my bass.
 
I won't do any gigs I think, maybe in like a year or two(and I heavily doubt that, I just wanna play for fun), just play with my friend who has a guitar.
I thought the same thing when I started out (at your age, too). My friend and I played together for a few months, and then we met another guitar player and drummer who were just starting out. Gigs started and just kept coming. Once you reach critical mass, opportunities to play in front of people tend to present themselves, and you could very well end up gigging much more quickly than in a year or two.

All of the gear being recommended so far will serve you well. If you buy an amp intended for bedroom practice only (or for playing at low volumes with one other person) you absolutely will end up replacing it once you start playing in a full-blown band. Not saying you should buy something bigger at this point; just be prepared to do so if you progress further.

Beyond that, a few pieces of advice:

  1. Work with an instructor to help get you started. In hindsight, this is the most important thing I would have done differently and it would have made a big difference in how fast I progressed.
  2. Play a bunch of different basses and alway always always buy the one the feels best to you.
  3. Protect your hearing. That muffled ringing noise you hear after playing with a loud band is the sound of your hearing going away. It may not seem like a big deal at 15, but it absolutely will be at 50. Keep the volume down or use ear protection.
Welcome to Talkbass. (Where the beauty of the basses is exceeded only by the people who play them. Or maybe it's the other way around. ;))
 
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I thought the same thing when I started out (at your age, too). My friend and I played together for a few months, and then we met another guitar player and drummer who were just starting out. Gigs started and just kept coming. Once you reach critical mass, opportunities to play in front of people tend to present themselves, and you could very well end up gigging much more quickly than in a year or two.

All of the gear being recommended so far will serve you well. If you buy an amp intended for bedroom practice only (or for playing at low volumes with one other person) you absolutely will end up replacing it once you start playing in a full-blown band. Not saying you should buy something bigger at this point; just be prepared to do so if you progress further.

Beyond that, a few pieces of advice:

  1. Work with an instructor to help get you started. In hindsight, this is the most important thing I would have done differently and it would have made a big difference in how fast I progressed.
  2. Play a bunch of different basses and alway always always buy the one the feels best to you.
  3. Protect your hearing. That muffled ringing noise you hear after playing with a loud band is the sound of your hearing going away. It may not seem like a big deal at 15, but it absolutely will be at 50. Keep the volume down or use ear protection.
Welcome to Talkbass. (Where the beauty of the basses is exceeded only by the people who play them. Or maybe it's the other way around. ;))
Thank you for the long answer! I really don't believe about the gigs though, in about 3 years I'm going to the military since it's mandatory where I live. And, I don't know how much will I get into bass. Maybe in a month I'll want to drop it, and sell it all? I can't know from now, so I prefer starting with something small, and maybe I'll buy something more if I need. Also, I live in an apartment and I don't want to bother people in the building, even if it's allowed.
I'll get ear protection. Thank you!
 
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Thank you for answering!
I mean the ray4, not 34. [This invalid link has been removed]
Pretty sure it's the beginner version of the ray34. Reddit says it's really good! However. I can't find info of the Schecter C-4 SGR.
I'll buy the bass itself locally, and the C-4 costs around 293$ and the Ray4 costs around 414$. Obviously, the C-4 is much better for me in terms of price.
I'll probably buy the amp online though, I'm thinking of this(it's not 210 or 215, but on the reddit FAQ it says this is a really good one that can actually create good bass tones): https://www.thomann.de/intl/il/ibanez_p20_promethean.htm
What do you think?
Thanks!
I think you’ll be satisfied playing the Ray4 through the P20 Promethean. You can learn a lot with those. You could get better gear but as you are a beginner I advise spending less on gear and more on lessons to make the progress you want to make.
 
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